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Old 16-05-2007
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plz take a look and give your opinion. This debate has come up due to one of the tracks in our region race this style at their club events.


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Old 16-05-2007
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This seems very much like the Reedy Race system that used to be used for one off big events. i remember going to Aire valley to watch one where every race position counted towards your end qualifying position. I think they are a good idea but doubt they would catch on as the way we race now at Nationals & Regionals is second to none.
Would be good for a one off event though (but dont know where it would fit in during the busy summer months)

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thanks but no thanks, its bias towards lucky runs, cant see it taking off at all, if something anit broke dont try to fix it,
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Yourself is probably both the best matched and most exciting, for close racing, opponent you'll ever get, improving your own lap times I always found one of the best things about racing.
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Old 16-05-2007
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As I have voiced on other forums, I do not like this format. The format that we have is as Barry says works very well and is without equal.

I cannot see this format working for large meetings. And also in this format your track time is cut as it is typical to race 6 3 min races and not 6 5 min races.
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Old 16-05-2007
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I don't think this type of racing was ever intended for very large meetings.

Also where do you get 6 x 5 minutes races in offroad ?
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but rob look at this scenario
Matty my son has 5 lucky races and wins em all and ends up with the likes of Neil cragg bradders etc top f1 drivers, he will get lapped and bounced all over and ruin his day, instead of racing against drivers of his own skill level which the traditional system does this way of racing promotes lucky wins, and false results, sorry i cant see it ever being popular
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but rob look at this scenario
Matty my son has 5 lucky races and wins em all and ends up with the likes of Neil cragg bradders etc top f1 drivers, he will get lapped and bounced all over and ruin his day, instead of racing against drivers of his own skill level which the traditional system does this way of racing promotes lucky wins, and false results, sorry i cant see it ever being popular
Hi Barry.
If your son Matty wins all his heats I don't think you could call that luck!

As Jonathan has rightly said, no matter what format you race to, by and large, the best will prevail.
I do, however, believe that the Laps system gives a better chance to the less abled driver; and, as I've said elsewhere, predictability breeds boredom and drivers become disheartened and pack-up!
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nice site.. but i dont suppose you asked jimmy for use of his pictures, and you've not credited him either.. and you posted the site on his forum.. hmmm..
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nice site.. but i dont suppose you asked jimmy for use of his pictures, and you've not credited him either.. and you posted the site on his forum.. hmmm..
Actually I did ask Jimmy for his permission - I would never be so rude as not to ask

Thanks for the attack though - needed that

AND it wasn't me who posted the link either - it was posted unknown to me.
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Typicaly Coastal is 6 x 5 min races and before you say "but they race to the same format" they dont. It is run to the Reedy format which is different, it just happens to be over 10 laps or 5 mins which ever happens sooner.

Even regionals are 5 x 5 mins, still more track time, than the laps format.
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In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the current format.
Why change something that has work so well previously!!!!!
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Typicaly Coastal is 6 x 5 min races and before you say "but they race to the same format" they dont. It is run to the Reedy format which is different, it just happens to be over 10 laps or 5 mins which ever happens sooner.

Even regionals are 5 x 5 mins, still more track time, than the laps format.
We actually run to 10 laps as that equates more or less to 5 mins, the race winner must complete 10 laps. However each race is fully timed using the BBK system. Each driver gets 6 races, the best 4 count towards their finishing position, this allows each driver to discard a non finish or whatever. The heats are mixed so drivers hopefully have different drivers in each race.

In the off road the different abilities do not seem to make such a difference in the races as they do in our touring races. And yes we have F1/F2 drivers in with F5's and it seems to work.

With our touring cars we run 3 qualis & 3 legged finals. I also believe we were one of the first clubs to run grid order in legs 2 & 3 of the finals in the order of the previous final leg.
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Leigh

I don't think this type of racing was ever intended for very large meetings.

Also where do you get 6 x 5 minutes races in offroad ?
hmm
2 rounds of practise 4 qualifing and a final thats 7 5min runs
2 practise 4 qualifing runs a 3 amains thats 9 5min runs
every week
every meeting
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Leigh

I don't think this type of racing was ever intended for very large meetings.

Also where do you get 6 x 5 minutes races in offroad ?
At Coastal Club Meetings
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