GT12 Help.. - Page 19

SlowOne · #**361** 01-08-2015

Yup, STM has it - Schumacher sell the base car and separate hop-ups and Zen/Mardave sell the base car with the alternative of a 'race' kit that has all the hop-ups in.

Any kit you find on the Schumacher/Zen/Mardave/Ore websites advertised as for GT12 will be within the BRCA rules and so all clubs accept them for racing.

Schumacher, Ore and Mardave sell kits in pieces that you build, the Zen comes built. Take your pick. If you are not sure how to build and set up these cars, especially a differential, the Zen has a lot of appeal. If you like tinkering and sorting a car and have some experience or a club full of helpers, then the others might appeal more.

You'll need a 1S-compatible speedo, a 13.5T BL motor and a servo to fit your car - see notes above from a lot of people on that! Pick a reasonable 1S pack, a lightweight body shell (Kamtec and Protoform ones come with a very good, free sticker sheet - others don't!

) and some tyres and off you go!

If you're stuck for choices or recommendations, come back here and we'll help.

Jez · #**362** 01-08-2015

thanks for the help/advice.do you have to have the ascari type shell?or would i have a dissadvantage running a hatchback style shell?

Xracer · #**363** 01-08-2015

Hi Jez, any of the BRCA legal shells which most of what you can buy are!

The Ascari is very popular for the Schumacher and handles very well and has very short front and rear overhang but some do race the other options too, the Zen is really aimed at the McLaren which fits it well!

mark christopher · #**364** 01-08-2015

Jez join the gt2 circuit uk page, all the committee members and top racers hang out in there.

Jez · #**365** 01-08-2015

thats fine mark but i presume thats facebook?

stucartwright · #**366** 02-08-2015

Yes it is Jez

Martin.s · #**367** 02-08-2015

Just fitted the LRC to my SSGT and was wondering what set up changes might be needed? I was running 37 rears with blue springs in the outer holes and 50/60 fronts with green springs. Ride height is around 4mm front and rear. The club I race at has high grip. Yet to run the car with the lrc yet. Any suggestions to any changes needed would be appreciated. I know a lot of set up is personal preference but thought it's always best to get a starting point from other people. I have heard of people running softer rear tyres for more over all grip levels...but I think maybe 35s would be too soft? Can I go to softer fronts instead?

Thanks
Martin

stucartwright · #**368** 02-08-2015

Hi Martin
35 rears with the yellow springs is a good combo I found on high grip tracks. The amount of droop is also important relative to how smooth the surface is too.

If it's a high grip track I would suggest sticking with the 50/60 splits, and maybe only change one thing at a time. The LCP is the single most influential hop up you can get (I my opinion) and that spine will give you a totally different feeling car. Why the SSGT foes not come with this is beyond me. Anyway, get off your soap box stuart!

Ed springs on front
Yellow on back
35 rear
50/60 fronts
LCP

Jobs a goooden!!

Enjoy.

mark christopher · #**369** 02-08-2015

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Originally Posted by stucartwright

Hi Martin
35 rears with the yellow springs is a good combo I found on high grip tracks. The amount of droop is also important relative to how smooth the surface is too.

If it's a high grip track I would suggest sticking with the 50/60 splits, and maybe only change one thing at a time. The LCP is the single most influential hop up you can get (I my opinion) and that spine will give you a totally different feeling car. Why the SSGT foes not come with this is beyond me. Anyway, get off your soap box stuart!

Ed springs on front
Yellow on back
35 rear
50/60 fronts
LCP

Jobs a goooden!!

Enjoy.

It was developed months after the car was launched, that's why.

mark christopher · #**370** 02-08-2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin.s

Just fitted the LRC to my SSGT and was wondering what set up changes might be needed? I was running 37 rears with blue springs in the outer holes and 50/60 fronts with green springs. Ride height is around 4mm front and rear. The club I race at has high grip. Yet to run the car with the lrc yet. Any suggestions to any changes needed would be appreciated. I know a lot of set up is personal preference but thought it's always best to get a starting point from other people. I have heard of people running softer rear tyres for more over all grip levels...but I think maybe 35s would be too soft? Can I go to softer fronts instead?

Thanks
Martin

the top team drivers are running 40 front and 35 rear, track dependent with green front and yellow outer rear springs.
I tried it and it was way to direct for me, I found 45 or 47 Max on the front and 35 or 37 rear. My preference was blue rear green front.

Throw the 50/60 away as grip comes up you want a softer tyre, just supeglue the side wall outer rto stop grip roll, hardly anyone run those tyres and with the LRC kit you loose front steering hence a softer tyre.

More than anything try variations, and lean the car, once you understand it, its brilliant

The top drivers set ups are on the Facebook pages gt12 circuit UK and Schumacher supastox GT.

Martin.s · #**371** 04-08-2015

Thanks for the tips guys. Looking forward to Friday when I can give the car a run out.

M

stucartwright · #**372** 04-08-2015

Make sure you let us know how it goes Martin!! Wishing you lots of luck!

Stu

Martin.s · #**373** 05-08-2015

Will report in over the weekend!

shinytopman · #**374** 05-08-2015

Question for Slowone......

Any advice as to the timing sweet spot on the Hirosaka 13.5t?

Have just bought one and wanted a rough starting point

currently running 66t spur, 31 pinion, and new JFT in a zen sorry dont know the Diam. approx 48mm i think.

Thanks in advance.

Shiny.

aittam · #**375** 06-08-2015

Hi all,

does the low pivot conversion (U4716) require the roll damper conversion (U4647)? Would it be possibile to use it alone? Is it made of carbon or s1?

I would like to try it, because i've read a lot of good comments about it, but i do not want the extra hassle of the roll damper conversion.

Regards.

jimjav · #**376** 06-08-2015

Morning,

Yesterday I was preparing the body for my zen and when I was fitting the body post discover that for the rear I have 3 different options. I went for the rear one. but what are the difference between rear and mid position.

best regards
Javier

mark christopher · #**377** 06-08-2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by aittam

Hi all,

does the low pivot conversion (U4716) require the roll damper conversion (U4647)? Would it be possibile to use it alone? Is it made of carbon or s1?

I would like to try it, because i've read a lot of good comments about it, but i do not want the extra hassle of the roll damper conversion.

Regards.

You do not need the damper tubes, can still use o rings

shinytopman · #**378** 06-08-2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjav

Morning,

Yesterday I was preparing the body for my zen and when I was fitting the body post discover that for the rear I have 3 different options. I went for the rear one. but what are the difference between rear and mid position.

best regards
Javier

If you look in the manual it tells you, but basically the rear mounts give more rear end grip, center ones are more balanced if i remember correctly

HTH's

Shiny

Martin.s · #**379** 07-08-2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher

You do not need the damper tubes, can still use o rings

Has anyone ever ran the car with both the o rings and side dampers? Just wondering what effects the stiffer rear end would have on handling?

mark christopher · #**380** 07-08-2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin.s

Has anyone ever ran the car with both the o rings and side dampers? Just wondering what effects the stiffer rear end would have on handling?

Pointless, use one or other, if you want stiffer damping use stiffer oil.