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I'm also looking for a new mid motor carpet setup to try out. I'm racing on high bite carpet with big jumps. Need something with more stability.
Here is what I typically use: Front: 55 piston, 35 wt oil, green spring, 3mm limiters middle on arm, outside on tower -1.5 camber 5 degree caster, 25 degree kickup camber link: 2-A (3mm spacer on inside ballstud, 1mm on outside ballstud) 0mm spacer on steering spindle ball stud 1mm spacer on top and 1mm spacer on bottom of spindle trailing spindles no toe in/out 21mm ride height 55 piston, 27.5 wt oil, red or orange spring, 2mm limiters inside on arm, outside on tower -1 camber 3.5 HRC block, 2 degree anti-squat 2-C camber link, 2mm spacer under outside ballstud, 1mm under inside ballstud wheelbase medium or rear hubs 1mm forward 21 mm ride height stagger ribs in front (hard insert), mini pins in rear w/med. insert SC10 gear diff 13.5 motor with 25/76 gearing Xcelorin 3800mah shorty lipo I have considered modifying the side pods to allow me to run the battery sideways and move more weight to rear of car. This would also allow me to mount the ESC in front of the battery instead of on rear motor guard. |
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Bob your setup is similar to what we are running in ottawa but we are running hardest springs and 45weight oil... I only have 2 nites on the car so im far from happy with things yet. Mysterious rear spring cup ejections during my runs has set me back LOL
I ran mini pin fronts last race and liked the turnin but started to hook the rear end. just too much steering and had to dial back the dual rate.. Im going to try a LRC-3.5 block next time out and retry the stagger fronts that where pushing.. |
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My carpet setup on friday was similar, but had the kit LRC block, 50g rear weight and the cream RC weight. Car was actually understeering quite a bit, but at least the rear end was gripping perfectly. Just need to give it a bit more steering now.
Will try the following this friday: Front Castor – 5 deg Kick-up 25 deg Shock oil – 40 wt Piston – 54, 4 hole Camber link – short, 2mm washer on inner ball stud Shock location – Top middle, Bottom outer Camber – 1 deg Tyres – cut staggers Camber link – 2B, 3mm washer on outer ball stud Shock location – Top middle, Bottom inner Toe - 4 deg LRC Camber – 3 deg 1 deg anti-squat Tyres – schu yellow mini pins, med inserts Weight – 50g rear brass, Cream RC pivot weight, 10g in each side pod I'll let you know how I get on. Aran, are you coming to West Bridgford this friday?
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![]() ![]() So I converted mine to mid motor last night, the battery is mounted as far back as possible, the esc as fsae back as possible, the weight kit again as far back as possible.... notice the trend? This car has an almost identical weight distribution as rear motor however the weight is almost totally in the wheelbase, my track is a medium grip clay 1/8th scale track. we'll see howe she drives! Matt |
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0 toe in or out 1 deg camber shock position on shock tower outer hole shock position on wishbones outer hole shock oil 30wt losi oil standard 55 4 hole piston silver spring 25 deg kick up shim the flat one 5 deg front hubs camber rod position on chassis inner hole 1mm spacer 1 mm spacer on front hub cut stagger with soft insert rear 2 deg camber shock position on tower middle shock position on wishbone middle shock oil 25 wt losi oil standard 55 4 hole piston pink spring 3.5 or 4 deg hrc toe block 2.5mm under gearbox anti squat shim camber rod position on chassis outer hole 1mm spacer camber rod position on hub outside furthest rear 1mm spacer mini pin soft incert optional 0.75mm wider rear hub and i run a cougar wing as they are 10mm wider and alot stronger middle 87gram under battery weight TDS make a great one affordable. change the diff balls and thrust bearings for the ceramic also get the associated diff screw and nut because they wont loosen up
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Can someone post pics on how they reversed the rear arms? I can't seem to figure out how to mount the shocks
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Please explain what the rear arms reversed means....
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check my thread - Mid Motor-Clay Track. i detailed how i did it and pics
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yeah i used 6mm of shimming, long screws and had to dremel some of the shock tower and the shock standoff Matt |
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hi all i am new on here and in fact new to of road racing but not to rc racing as i mostly race a rc10r5 .
my new losi 22 just running in the gear box ![]() electrics in ![]() ![]() not had a chance to run it yet as i am waiting for the saddle packs to tern up kit is as stock but i have changed to 25 kick up 5 dergees caster 2.5 anti squat and 20w oil in rear stock in front apart from that it is as the book tels you. tyres are fastrax turf ripper with mid inserts electrics are lrp qc3 speedo a old reedy ti 12t single with a 20t pinion servo is a ko propo 2123 7.2v and the batteries will be intellect 6000mah saddles Last edited by cryer-evo; 19-09-2011 at 07:53 PM. Reason: mist out |
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yes it will be up dated to a lrp sxx when funds allow and a x11 6.5 our a 8.5
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I've been bolting my 22 together.
I decided to take some pics and write some words on my blog. ![]() For anyone who's interested they can be seen here.. http://pipskiracing.blogspot.com/201...ld-part-1.html |
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Yah...
I've been running mid-motor all year, apart from the worlds warmup and the worlds. It's been feeling really good, I won the Norwegian Nationals a month ago, and a Norwegian cup race two weeks ago, both races on astro. Rather different grip on two very different tracks, but everything worked out well, and I really feel the car has grown on me. So, this weekend I was going back to the track where I won the nationals. A friend of mine was gonna borrow my car from the nationals, so out of curiosity I built a brand new rear motored 22. Another reason was that my local track for this winter will be an indoor clay track. I had to work a bit on it, but it felt good, and after a days race I was faster, more consistent and more confident with my rear motored car. Whuuuuaaaaat?? ![]() ![]() I also got the chance to test my old midmotor after the race, and yes, the driving style was a bit different. With the rearmotor I could gun in more out of corners, control it more during jumping, and surprisingly be a bit more precise... I still won't say one is better than the other, but I did not think I would be that fast with a rear motor. I'd still choose mid for extreme grip carpet I think, but this weekend was an epiphany. ![]() It shall be said that I haven't tried the Speartooth or the AC conversion, but I like to keep things Losi for now. Working for the TLR-dealer in Norway, I'm kinda obliged to run it stock... ![]() Heres my setup. If someone tests it, please give me some feedback ![]() http://www.petitrc.com/setup/losi/se...2011091718.pdf
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Has anyone bought the losi 22 rtr ? And if so what are they like as thinking of getting one for the missus . As I have the kit one and she wonts to run with us
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Hi, thanks for sharing your set-up. I'll have the chance to try it in October on a carpet indoor track. Also I'll try it on an Astro track around November. I'd like to keep my 22 with rear configuration. I'll keep you update on how it'll goes.... thanks. |
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