CAT SX - First photos - Page 5

Chris Doughty · #81 14-03-2008

very wrong if he works for them, or their distributor (should have talked to them behind closed doors)

but he does have a point, it would have looked way better with a proper rear wing (like what EVERYBODY races with) and some NEW schumacher Mini-Pin tires, small pins look way better than mini-spikes. it would have also been appealing to have pictures of it with some Holeshots (or taper-pins - or any american tire) on it too, it would have hit the US market much better too.

so so so often do the guys on US forums comment on our '80's spike tires, they just don't understand what tracks we race on.

bigred5765 · #82 14-03-2008

yeah i think they should have given jimmy the chance to do publicity shots
I'm sure he would have made a way better job of it than them
go offer em your services jimmy
ps remember it was my idea

Northy · #83 14-03-2008

Mmmmmmm, wing orings

Shall I see if I can get some 'whities' to replace them?

G

bigred5765 · #84 14-03-2008

pinkies.

jimmy · #85 14-03-2008

He had his own agenda fair enough - he wanted the car to be lipo-only and slagged off the 4+2 layout / option. It was when he said schuey UK needed more marketing training that I replied to him. What sort of marketing is slating your own product/company?

I agree with what you said about the presentation chris, in the UK we're used to seeing american cars setup for american tracks. But Americans seeing these tyres might assume wrongly it's a UK-only grass car - you know how these things get out of control! haha

Like you say, do it behind closed doors.

I guess lipo is 'taking over' in the USA, but over here it makes sense to have the best no-compromises car possible. At least Schumacher have both options available to make everyone happy.
I'd like to know if the 4+2 / LiPo car have a very different layout inside? maybe with the motor moving fore/aft ?

jimmy · #86 14-03-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765

yeah i think they should have given jimmy the chance to do publicity shots
I'm sure he would have made a way better job of it than them
go offer em your services jimmy
ps remember it was my idea

You aren't wrong Carl, I think I'm going to take you on as my manager

Chris Doughty · #87 14-03-2008

I thought the comments you quoted were refering to the old tires on the car and tiny rear wing.

bigred5765 · #88 14-03-2008

no matter what his thoughts,there really not made for public airing,
especially has he works for them in the states,
he has a right to a view
but as chris said behind closed doors

jimmy · #89 14-03-2008

I didn't see that - but those are fair enough points. If it was up to me I'd have released them with american flags and eagles all over it - That'd sell it!

bigred5765 · #90 14-03-2008

see
schumacher i told ya jimmy should have done your press release
kabam

Cruise · #91 14-03-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy

I'd like to know if the 4+2 / LiPo car have a very different layout inside? maybe with the motor moving fore/aft ?

Only servo ,speedo and receiver have to move.

Cruise.

Northy · #92 14-03-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruise

Only servo ,speedo and receiver have to move.

bigred5765 · #93 14-03-2008

but at least it a option

James · #94 14-03-2008

They're pretty similar chassis really...
I was told it would come with a big/proper rear wing... ??
Thats not a servo poking out...
I'm off for my lunch now...

MattW · #95 14-03-2008

The wing has definetly been mentioned to the right people.

ApexSpeed · #96 14-03-2008

The U.S. Shuey guys were pretty upset that not only were the photos released before everyone had expected to see them, but they weren't even notified in the U.S. of the pending product release. They had no information on their end. How are they supposed to answer questions for their customers when they don't get the basic information they need? They find out about the car when we do (or after, in this case), and in my opinion, that's no way for an international arm of any company to function.

As far as I know, they are also a bit disappointed that the photos were released so far before the official product release date of the car (not less than 30 days out). Watching Team Losi and Tekin break release date after release date and you can see how negative results can arise from poor planning and eager marketing. Tekin brushless motors and speed controllers are virtual ghosts in a brushless landscape here.

I don't think they care about the used tires and the funky wing, but they seem to not know as much about their own new product as websites like oOple.com and redrc.net. I can see how they would be more than a little frustrated. It might get the better of all of us to see other people broadcasting information on their own products that they don't even know about yet.

As for the car, I really like it so far. Lipos will be the norm here, regardless of the European addiction to low-tech NiMh cells, and this will be the first 4wd car that is designed around a LiPo stick pack.

I would think that the LiPo version sells just as well, if not better than, the 2x4 version here in the U.S.

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin' is all.

I don't know nuthin' 'bout nuthin'.

Alfonzo · #97 14-03-2008

Just goes to show there's always two sides to a story.

Yeah - what the hell is our (european) deal with NiMh?

, Bring forth thy Lipo

mark christopher · #98 14-03-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy

He had his own agenda fair enough - he wanted the car to be lipo-only and slagged off the 4+2 layout / option. It was when he said schuey UK needed more marketing training that I replied to him. What sort of marketing is slating your own product/company?

I agree with what you said about the presentation chris, in the UK we're used to seeing american cars setup for american tracks. But Americans seeing these tyres might assume wrongly it's a UK-only grass car - you know how these things get out of control! haha

Like you say, do it behind closed doors.

I guess lipo is 'taking over' in the USA, but over here it makes sense to have the best no-compromises car possible. At least Schumacher have both options available to make everyone happy.
I'd like to know if the 4+2 / LiPo car have a very different layout inside? maybe with the motor moving fore/aft ?

was told the lipo car will be stick format with radio gear moved to suit

HVAC25000 · #99 14-03-2008

Do we know if there is any chance of sealing the drivetrain by any means? Here in the u.s. we have a thing called dirt just FILLED with little things called rocks and pebbles that make it impossible to run a belt driven car that doesn't have a sealed drivetrain. There's a reason no one in the u.s., at elast west coast, buys yoks or 501xs unless they run on a clay track... clay tracks aren't the norm on the west coast, and certainly aren't the norm in southern california where I live...

Adam Bailey · #**100** 17-03-2008

Being that there's been enough said about what I've posted on other sites I figured I could help clarify a few things on here...

Last week, approximately 20 minutes before Schumacher UK released pics of the new Cat I was asked on RC Tech for pics of the new 4WD, which I of course said no because we will not release pics of the buggy until we have a release date and we are 30 days from that date. This was said because between Schumacher UK and US, we had a marketing agreement that we were going to keep the pics and "spy shots" to zero before release.

Like I said about 20 minutes later myself and the office manager received an email with a link to the UK side of the site showing us pics of the buggy for the first time. Neither one of us had seen any pics up until that point.

There we are taking "pre-orders" in the US for the car, There is no specific release date, and we do not have accurate pricing as of yet, I'll be relasing that as we come closer to the release.

The K079 "LiPo version" is going to be focused on in the states, but the K078 4x2 can be ordered as well

Any and all questions should be directed to myself, Shawn Palmer, or the UK.