PETROL PRICES

[bodgit]

91p a gallon (20p lt ) in 1977 when I got my yami

[tisher]

Originally Posted by superdez

Nice graph illustrating average earnings adjusted for RPI. We are back to the year 2002

Graph below showing weekly fuel prices. Things are probably going to get a lot worse throughout the rest of the year and beyond.

My Wages have not gone up in six years in fact they have gone
down if you ask most people the top graph is bollocks

[mattr]

Originally Posted by tisher

My Wages have not gone up in six years in fact they have gone down if you ask most people the top graph is bollocks

Its an ONS graph, so its not "bollocks", it just doesn't agree with you, and your situation. Its national average salary (probably, only including full timers, that's one of the standard rules they use) adjusted by RPI. So the payrises you personally have had over the last 6 years are utterly totally irrelevant, unless you know exactly how the RPI has moved over the same period. (generally up, the amount is subject to much debate!)

TBH, if you ask "most people" or the "man in the street", you have a fairly good chance of ending up with someone who doesn't have the faintest idea what the RPI is, or how it works, or even what statistics are. Or Mathematics. :/

[The Marcos Graveyard]

Just paid €106 to fill up the A6 with diesel

[teambowen]

A litre of 2 stoke oil was more expensive to buy than filling my petrol tank in 1986 in my motorbike.

God i'm that old lol.

I'm Having my golf remapped today up to 180 bhp with the idea of saving 10% on fuel.
I do 280 miles a week just to get to work and i have no choice but to drive.

I'm looking to save £400 a year just by remapping and thats with fuel at a average of 144.9 when i did the sums.

My average at ATM is 47.8mpg over 6k
Trip is always above 50mpg to work.

I will update you here in a month or so for those who are interested.


J

[SlowOne]

Originally Posted by matthew

I am the same I drive a 1.6 petrol and cruise everywhere, where ever I can take my foot off the gas
I will, what is the country coming too .
By the way have you have done that experiment a few times with both the cheap fuel and the branded fuel? It would
be interesting to now if this is a fact....

I've done it with Esso, BP and Shell Fuelsave. Always get at least 10% further with the Shell. V Power is better than that, but does not justify the cost. Fuelsave I get for £1.41 a litre, V Power is £1.48. I wouldn't ever buy supermarket fuel after it made a mess of my wife's Escort engine some years ago (emulsion all over the rocker cover, blocked crankcase breather) and is always dissed by the reviews. Try Fuelsave and see if you agree.

Originally Posted by burgie

lol - when I started driving petrol was about 73p per litre....

Whe I started driving fuel was 28p a litre. When the rationing was envisaged in 1973 it was 32p a litre. My first recollection is my father complaining when the local garage put the price up to over 4 shillings (20p) a gallon in the sixties. I can hear him now saying "When I started driving it was 1s 6d!" (For the youngsters that's 7.5p... a gallon!!) Having said all that, if you had a car that did more than 35 to the gallon in the '70s, it was either an 850 Mini or broken down!

Originally Posted by bodgit

Dont forget you got double treble green shield stamps then too

Green Shield stamps, there's a memory! I used to drive further to find a station with quad stamps!!!

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing

I'll be on cruise control at 60mph to get to the 12th National this weekend and running a 1.9 TDi, hope to see 55mpg

Not quite but did see 53.7mpg from cold start to finish of 129 miles. It took 31 mins for the mpg meter to get to 50mpg from cold

[Fernandez]

Originally Posted by tisher

yea but your wages are at least 2.5 times more than ours

Is that so? Im not so sure about that

[pro4nut]

Well petrol in East London has just hit £1.36 a litre, not trying to wind anyone up, but if you happen to be heading through leytonstone, the leyton mills asda is a bargin

[TARTMAN]

2 1/2 years ago, my large van was £96 to fill up, now around £140.

totally mad. I still only get around 500 miles........ its just plain criminal,

but, the government will continue putting tax on it as its easy money for them as what choice do we have.
I remember we all went mad when it hit £1 a litre, then we shut up and carry on taking the ass raping at the pumps. just seen local station for deisel. £1.48.9 a litre. petrol 144.9...........

so when do we decide we cant afford to go to work as the fuel is to high, at this rate, about 2 years we will all be paying £2 a litre..........has to stop.....

[pro4nut]

The shame is we can complain all we like but i don't see it changing.

[SlowOne]

Nothing is going to change for two reasons - we are all complaining about the price we have to pay to fill up. Stop filling up and it will change. If you can't afford to stop filling up, stop complaining. You might feel like you are being shafted, but you are bending over and making it easy!!

Secondly, we are using a resource that is running out. It will only ever get more expensive whatever the Government does.

[Fernandez]

Originally Posted by SlowOne

Nothing is going to change for two reasons - we are all complaining about the price we have to pay to fill up. Stop filling up and it will change. If you can't afford to stop filling up, stop complaining. You might feel like you are being shafted, but you are bending over and making it easy!!

.

Stop filling up ??

=

stop going to my work ( to far to ride a bike and no public transport )
stop bringing 2 kids to school
stop my RC hobby couse I cant go to the races across the country

[SlowOne]

Precisely, we cannot stop filling up so we get taxed. What's easier than taxing something everyone can't do without, like income and fuel? We just have to suck it up unless we are prepared to give it up...

[TARTMAN]

Originally Posted by SlowOne

Precisely, we cannot stop filling up so we get taxed. What's easier than taxing something everyone can't do without, like income and fuel? We just have to suck it up unless we are prepared to give it up...

we are taxed higher than anyone else, its the TAX that our govenment rips us off with simple.

oil is the same price world wide!!!!!!!!!!!

go to dubai, USA, Oz and see. there way cheaper than us. Get real......... Its all TAX. not the price of oil!!!!

Our OWN government are raping us at the pumps and we are bending over and taking it, as we have no choice.
Disgusting!

[Northy]

Be careful tootling round in the soot chuckers at 2k rpm, you'll be bunging up the EGR valve and DPF

[cmgreen]

We should all just use one supplier. Get all our family and friends to use the same garage/brand of fuel. Then other suppliers will have to lower there fuel

[DCM]

I wouldn't mind the price going up as crude oil goes up, as long as it comes down to!

[mattr]

Originally Posted by cmgreen

We should all just use one supplier. Get all our family and friends to use the same garage/brand of fuel. Then other suppliers will have to lower there fuel

Except most "brands" sell their fuel to anyone, not only their own fuel stations (which they don't own anyway, mostly franchises) even competitors "brands" buy some of their fuel from them as well as all the supermarkets. The only one who suffers if we (for instance) boycott Shell, is the poor sods who run Shell franchises. Shell probably won't even notice. As we have to buy fuel from somewhere, so the slack is taken up elsewhere (Tescos f'rinstance, who probably buy Shell fuel).

And FWIW, selling filling station fuel is a minuscule part of most oil companies business. Usually only a few % or less. Most of it goes to plastics and chemical production.
Last time i looked at any specific figures (BP i think) fuel sales, diesel and petrol, globally, was less than 2%

Solution is to drive less. Unfortunately, successive governments have made it financially impractical to have any sort of integrated public transport system, and made it socially desirable to have a posh shiny car.

So we are knackered.

[Big G]

Now the weather is improving and the clocks will go back shortly I'll be cycling to work. It's only 13 miles each way.