Kyosho Ultima

[James]

Theres an awesome modernised ultima for vintage racing in this thread:

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=6543

[James]

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Originally Posted by ace028

Items I need:
New top tray - Blue Groove Racing USA (they have an ebay shop too)
Screw Kit - Nortech?
Rims and tires -
Bearings - ebay
Servo mount - ebay
New body - Blue Groove racing (ebay)
Top deck mounting hardware - ebay
Shock clamps - Very hard to get hold of, but kyosho raider ones fit, might beworth looking for an old raider to break
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[ace028]

Thanks for the info and the link! They are indeed some nice vintage builds. I found the repo body, but I can't find the top deck.

[James]

Send them a message through ebay, thay had one carbon fibre second hand one in last time i contacted them, they may have more now.

There are also some for sale from ebay south korea, you may have to search through ebay.com.au to find them..

[ian h]

Originally Posted by smOkin

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I have a brand new set of original rims, brand new topdeck/ radio plate and also a brand new set of swing shafts. I will sell them if you want them

[ace028]

I may be interested PM me your prices. I'm on a very tight budget right now. Can you post some pics. Thanks.

[ace028]

I found this on ebay, i'm looking to get it if it don't go too high.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ht_1052wt_1165

[ace028]

Ok, here is my plan, tell me what you think.

Kyosho RB5 front axles, hub carriers/spindles ( not sure if option axles or regular)
Kyosho RB5 rear universals (proline ones to use Jconcepts rulux wheels)
Jconcepts Rulux wheels
Team Bluegroove body
Proline tires.

RB5 shocks? The original ones I have should be fine, but need some kind of shock clamps for them.

Let me know if you think these will not work. From what I can tell I think they will, I registered on rc10talk to talk to the builder on that forum.

Keep in mind that I'm not too concerned with keeping it with original rims and tires and parts, but I would like to keep it with mostly kyosho parts except the rims and tires.

[ian h]

Originally Posted by ace028

I may be interested PM me your prices. I'm on a very tight budget right now. Can you post some pics. Thanks.

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[mr. ed]

Originally Posted by ace028

Ok, here is my plan, tell me what you think.

Kyosho RB5 front axles, hub carriers/spindles ( not sure if option axles or regular)
Kyosho RB5 rear universals (proline ones to use Jconcepts rulux wheels)
Jconcepts Rulux wheels
Team Bluegroove body
Proline tires.

RB5 shocks? The original ones I have should be fine, but need some kind of shock clamps for them.

Let me know if you think these will not work. From what I can tell I think they will, I registered on rc10talk to talk to the builder on that forum.

Keep in mind that I'm not too concerned with keeping it with original rims and tires and parts, but I would like to keep it with mostly kyosho parts except the rims and tires.

How would you fit the rulux front wheels on the RB5 front axles?
Further, nice plan but a bit in contrast with your budget statement

[ace028]

Mr. ed
I agree that my plans are not cheap, that is why I am going to restore it slowly, in about a month I should be better with funds, I am in the military and I am in transition between bases and housing right now, that is the reason for a tight budget between paychecks and buying plane tickets to visit my family between assignments.

I think the 4wd rulux front wheels would fit the rb5 front hex axles? I may be wrong, I saw the guy on rc10 talk had used these parts and mounted hpi wheels on the front, not sure if the hexes are different sizes or what. From what I can tell I think they are 12 mm front hexes? I'm really not sure, I just had a hunch that it may work, please let me know if I am wrong.

[adam lancia]

Originally Posted by ace028

Mr. ed
I agree that my plans are not cheap, that is why I am going to restore it slowly, in about a month I should be better with funds, I am in the military and I am in transition between bases and housing right now, that is the reason for a tight budget between paychecks and buying plane tickets to visit my family between assignments.

I think the 4wd rulux front wheels would fit the rb5 front hex axles? I may be wrong, I saw the guy on rc10 talk had used these parts and mounted hpi wheels on the front, not sure if the hexes are different sizes or what. From what I can tell I think they are 12 mm front hexes? I'm really not sure, I just had a hunch that it may work, please let me know if I am wrong.

I just did a little checking of my own since I was thinking the same thing. The B44 front wheels use a 9.5mm (3/8") hex so that's a no go. However, the Lazer ZX5 wheels would work but they may be a little wide when trying to stretch a 2wd front tire on.

[mr. ed]

you can cut the inner rib of the zx5 front wheels, or use ultima RB5 front wheels, or cut the inner rib of zx5 sp front wheels. Each option gives you different front widths.
The offset of the zx5 front wheels is a little bigger than on the zx5 rear wheels.

If you like spoke wheels, kyosho also has some. I think they are priced the same as the ZX5 wheels.
Personally I'd go for these:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...3&I=LXNX94&P=K
and
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...3&I=LXNX95&P=K

They're a nice match, with wide offset in the rear just like the original ultima.

PS: yes the RB5 uses 12mm hexes, hpi also, traxxas also, but the rulux ones I don't think so.

[ace028]

Thanks, those look like a good alternative, I will keep those in mind. Thanks. I will post pictures when I get the chance to start on the project after my move.

[ace028]

Thanks Amain Hobbies!!! Ordered these on OCt 29th and got them today the 31st!! My kyosho is at my dads house back in Cali, and i'm on the other side of the US, so it will be a while before I can get to try to install these, but here are some pics I took.

These parts are:
Genuine Kyosho-
UM505
UMW507
Protek RC
5x10x4mm rubber sealed bearings

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Originally Posted by smOkin

Theres an awesome modernised ultima for vintage racing in this thread:

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=6543

Those are purty.
One of them he probably races in the vintage class.
Id like to see someone put ceramic bearings and diff balls in one for brushless use.
Since it has been the dawn of this era.

[ace028]

well a quick trip to the hobby store confirmed that thr rulux wheels won't work. Had I read the above posts more thoroughly I would have already have known that lol. Well it will be great to just get some wheels that I can actually easy to get tires for. I do like spoked wheels so I may get the ones Mr. Ed pointed out. Well can't wait to tear this baby down and start cleaning and sorting out what needs replacement and get her rolling.

[mr. ed]

did you get the kingpins to mount the steering knuckles in the carriers? don't see them in your pics and the original ultima ones are too thick to re-use onhere

[ace028]

No, I haven't gotten them yet. They were not listed in the parts that were needed in the other forum for this mod, so I am trying to find the part numbers for it and the retaining screw that holds it in. I will probably download the instruction manuel for the rb5 and look through that to find it.

Do you know if those duratrax wheels are pin drive or hex for the rear ones?

[stampede vxlboy]

pins on the the rear and hexs on my truck and the same on the front