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Old 17-08-2011
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Default Orion R10 Setups

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Dustin Evans
2wd Modified Buggy
TQ & Winning Team Orion R10 Set-Up

Team Orion Software: V1.07_110119
1: Running Mode = For/Brake
2: Drag Brake = Custom 11%
3: Voltage Protection = 3.0V/cell
4: "DRRS" Punch = Level 3
5: Brake Force = 62.5
6: Reverse Force = 25%
7: Initial Brake = Drag Brake
8: Neutral Range = 9%
9: Boost Timing = 0
10: Turbo Slope = 24
11: Overheat Protection = Disable
12: Turbo Timing = 0
14: Turbo Delay = Off

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Jared Tebo
Modified Truck
Winning Team Orion R10 Set-Up
Team Orion Software: V1.07_110119
1: Running Mode = For/Brake
2: Drag Brake = Custom 12%
3: Voltage Protection = 3.0V/cell
4: "DRRS" Punch = Level 3
5: Brake Force = 70
6: Reverse Force = 25%
7: Initial Brake = Drag Brake
8: Neutral Range = 6%
9: Boost Timing = 0
10: Turbo Slope = 24
11: Overheat Protection = Disable
12: Turbo Timing = 0
14: Turbo Delay = Off

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Jared Tebo
4wd Modified Buggy
TQ & Winning Team Orion R10 Set-Up

Team Orion Software: V1.07_110119
1: Running Mode = For/Brake
2: Drag Brake = 0
3: Voltage Protection = 3.0V/cell
4: "DRRS" Punch = Level 3
5: Brake Force = 62.5
6: Reverse Force = 25%
7: Initial Brake = 0
8: Neutral Range = 6%
9: Boost Timing = 0
10: Turbo Slope = 24
11: Overheat Protection = Disable
12: Turbo Timing = 0
14: Turbo Delay = Off

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Dakotah Phend
4x4 Modified Short Course
Winning Team Orion R10 Set-Up

Team Orion Software: V1.07_110119
1: Running Mode = For/Brake
2: Drag Brake = 0
3: Voltage Protection = 3.0V/cell
4: "DRRS" Punch = Level 3
5: Brake Force = 62.5
6: Reverse Force = 25%
7: Initial Brake = 0
8: Neutral Range = 9%
9: Boost Timing = 12
10: Turbo Slope = 12
11: Overheat Protection = Disable
12: Turbo Timing = 12
14: Turbo Delay = 0.1
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Old 18-08-2011
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The software level suggest that they have based this on the HobbyWing V3 119MOD firmware if that is indeed the case I use more PUNCH (on my HobbyWing ESCs with that firmware on) than Tebo ... seems I should be turn that bad boy down!
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Old 18-08-2011
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The software level suggest that they have based this on the HobbyWing V3 119MOD firmware if that is indeed the case I use more PUNCH (on my HobbyWing ESCs with that firmware on) than Tebo ... seems I should be turn that bad boy down!
I was thinking that, the list is identical to the Hobbywing/Speed Passion lift of settings.

Is the Orion a rebranded Hobbywing?
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Old 18-08-2011
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Is the Orion a rebranded Hobbywing?
Yes that is the case Orion looks alot better tho
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I was thinking that, the list is identical to the Hobbywing/Speed Passion lift of settings.

Is the Orion a rebranded Hobbywing?
A lot of people think that this is the case but it is not.
Hobbywing are very good and very popular on the Asian continent but just not on the same level as Orion. Power ratings etc etc are far higher on Orion and that keeps the temps down and motors last a lot longer and it just goes on and on. If you stuty the ratings etc you will soon realise that Orion is in another league.
Saying that Hobbywing are very good.
It just depends if you want the best
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Hobbywing stuff is great for club/practicing/regionals...or if your on a budget. However, the Orion stuff looks very nice, and as with all these things you do get what you pay for, even if you first cant see it!

i use speed passion stuff, and in terms of reliablility, it is brilliant. However, if I was racing more seriously, then I would look at the orion stuff, it is priced very competitively.
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Hobbywing stuff is perfectly adequate for Nationals too! Brian Eldridge came 2nd in the mod Class at the Halifax BRCA TC National using a HW ESC!

There's loads of them knocking around at National level in various touring cars. Even mine!

Excellent ESC
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Small and Light Weight | Double Sensor Port | External Capacitor Board | Specs | Programming | Racing Success | Setup Sheets | Manual



The Vortex R10 Pro is Team Orion's high-end brushless speed control for 1/10 and 1/12 scale vehicles. Top grade low resistance components have been paired with a unique CAD designed aluminum case to achieve best top speed, accelleration and efficiency. But the heart of the R10 Pro is its software. It is the most advanced brushless speed control software we ever made, offering best control with today's ultra powerful brushless motors and high-current LiPo batteries.





With 44 grams of weight and dimensions of 41.5x30.5x22.2mm the Vortex R10 Pro finds its space in every vehicle. Cables can be soldered, spare cables are available separately. We also offer spare cases and switches. The Vortex R10 Pro is shipped with cable clips, double side tape, an adaptor to connect with the DSB-R Program Box, a cooling fan, heat shrink tubes and a detailed instruction manual.



With todays high-end brushless motors and batteries, efficiency and cooling are the key.It is well known that aluminum dissipates heat much better than plastic. This is why our engineers chose this material for the case of the next level speed control. The bottom part is kept in plastic to prevent glitches. On top of the CNC machined aluminum case a fan can be mounted for extra cooling.



The Vortex R10 Pro speed control not only features an ultra precise CAD aluminum case for best cooling, but also a double sensor port. This allows you to install your ESC in your vehicle in the best way and gives you the option to program the speedo through the second port if needed.


Using the top side sensor portUsing the back side sensor portClick to see an installation sample



The Vortex R10 Pro is our first speed control with an external capacitor board. The new capacitor board allows you to securely attach the capacitors to your chassis: No mess with cables, no torn capacitors anymore.



Vortex R10 Race (2-3S)Vortex R10 Pro (1-2S)Vortex R10 Pro (2-3S)ORI65109ORI65101ORI65102Sensor / SensorlessSensor / SensorlessSensor / Sensorless90A /420A120A / 760A160A / 760A0.00055 ohm 0.0003 ohm0.0003 ohm forward/brake – forward/brake reverseforward/brake – forward/brake reverseforward/brake – forward/brake reverseforward/reverse (for rock crawler)forward/reverse (for rock crawler)forward/reverse (for rock crawler)1/12 on-road, 1/10 on-road and
off-road, Rock Crawler1/12 on-road, 1/10 on-road and
off-road, Rock Crawler1/12 on-road, 1/10 on-road and
off-road, Rock Crawler2S up to 5.5T1S up to 3.5T2S up to 2.5T3S up to 10.5T2S up to 4.5T3S up to 5.5TUp to 6000KVUp to 12000KV Up to 16000KV5-9 cells NiMH - NiCd4-6 cells NiMH - NiCd5-9 cells NiMH - NiCd2-3 cells LiPo - LiFe1-2 cells LiPo - LiFe2-3 cells LiPo - LiFe5.75V/3A, Linear mode6V/2A, DC/DC Booster5.75V/3A, Linear mode41.5x30.5x20.2 mm w/o fan41.5x30.5x16.5mm w/o fan41.5x30.5x20.2 mm w/o fan43g40g44g



The Vortex R10 Pro speed control comes with a preset software which has been optimised to suit most driving styles, track conditions and vehicles. However it is possible to fine tune various parameters in the software to adapt the speed control to your needs. Most of the parameters can be set up using the button on the on/off switch.


Additional parameters can be changed with the optional DSB-R Digital Program Box ( ORI65150). It is connected to the ESC with a special adapter (included with the ESC) and a sensor cable. As the R10 Pro has two sensor ports, you can use the second port for programming, or you simply disconnect the motor and connect it to the program box.




The Vortex R10 Pro has gone through intensive testing by our international R&D team. We chose the best settings and pre-installed them on the ESC. Programming is only needed for those who are searching the last tenths of a second on the track.
With the on/off switch most of the
parameters can be adjusted.

Please click here to see the
adjustable parametersWith the DSB-R Digital Setting Box all the settings can be made on a LCD display. With the box you can change all parameters and update the firmware of the ESC. A free PC software is available for download.

The DSB-R setting box also allows firmware updates of the speed control and the connection with a PC.
The computer software can be downloaded on the Team Orion website for free.


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Old 18-08-2011
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A lot of people think that this is the case but it is not.
Hobbywing are very good and very popular on the Asian continent but just not on the same level as Orion. Power ratings etc etc are far higher on Orion and that keeps the temps down and motors last a lot longer and it just goes on and on. If you stuty the ratings etc you will soon realise that Orion is in another league.
Saying that Hobbywing are very good.
It just depends if you want the best
So if I want the best buy Orion?

Are you 100% that it's not a hobbywing?
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So if I want the best buy Orion?
Well they are winning everything at the mo - World Champions 2wd and 4wd - real smooth to drive etc etc

If you think the above looks and is a Hobbywing then buy a Hobbywing.
To me Orion is an Orion - LOL
Honestly I cannot make a comment on Hobbywing but Orion has certainly stepped up to the mark to make one of the best speed controllers on the market - the choice is yours
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Old 18-08-2011
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Forget hobbywing...

This looks similar to the ko propo vfs bmc-1 speedo!

I just bought one for my kyosho fs

The specs are similar to some extent. But looks like the heat sink is different - a bit like the Novak kinetic.

Anyway...as long as it does the job, right?

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Old 19-08-2011
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A lot of people think that this is the case but it is not.
Hobbywing are very good and very popular on the Asian continent but just not on the same level as Orion. Power ratings etc etc are far higher on Orion and that keeps the temps down and motors last a lot longer and it just goes on and on. If you stuty the ratings etc you will soon realise that Orion is in another league.
Saying that Hobbywing are very good.
It just depends if you want the best
Sorry Tony, but your slightly wrong.....fair dinkums for pushing the sponsors product mind (even if a little misinformed )

The speedo is built for Orion by HW. End of.

That's no bad thing, and it is a unit built specifically for Orion (so won't be rebranded as anything else), but is not an Orion home brew as many people seem to think.

What it isn't is a V3 HW in a rebaged case... call it a V2.5 if you will. It comes out of the same factory as the other HWings, and is designed by the same guy.

There is no doubt the Orion is a damm fine unit, and certainly visualy looks loads better than the current HW v2 120A...and from what I've been told the internals are a step forward over the old ESC too.
Personally, I'll wait for the v3 HW to be released thanks, which will contain most of the internals of the Orion, with a few other tricks. However, there is plenty of room for both on the market

If you doubt my above points, this comes direct from the HW factory, as I do have close contacts with them, being based out here.

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TryHard is spot on.

Main upgrades over the V2.1 HobbyWing hardware are

double sensor port position
higher rating fets (not necessary in offroad as the number of people using 60A escs show)
ability to use larger power wires
heatsink case.

The HobbyWing V3 is going to be a very different animal ... all I can say is watch this space as it's going to break some fresh ground when it arrives around end of quater 1 next year!! (ok ... quick teaser ... BlueTooth ... )
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Certain best looking in my view
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