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That all looks very good. Is that the FS2 suspension mounts in there with the inserts? If so is there any chance you could alter the RF and the FF blocks positions so that you can run the modern arms and suspension pins from the FS2 then i would defo have one of them. It's what I'm trying to do in my spare time.
Problem is the block positions are set by the chassis and rear gearbox and the FS2 wishbones are not very strong compared to the zx/zxr versions. We are trying to keep the design as it was but with a few modern touches.
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Just putting everything together.

Thanks for Welshy for the rear gear box.



Doesn't it look just like a dead cow?
Mate, you just get better and better. I did think about your front gearbox yesterday and thought my cars going to be cf crazy with that :-)
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Looking good ossh ....as always ..

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We are trying to keep the design as it was but with a few modern touches.
Few ?
If sooner or later all the alu and carbon parts posted here will be available i think that we can build a Lazer without any kyosho part at all !!

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If sooner or later all the alu and carbon parts posted here will be available i think that we can build a Lazer without any kyosho part at all !!

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Ema, yes that's correct! There might be a chance I will source for titanium or CF arms, but the original ones are strong enough. I have already found a aluminum alternative for LA-1 for the ball diff.

By the way, do any of you want a OT-93 Carbon Fibre moulded bumper? I found a supplier who can mould that perfectly (don't know if the Kyosho word will be on it or not). If I get more than 10 commitments, it could be ~$60 +/- $10 per bumper + shipping.

Fibre-lyte won't make it because they will need to make hundreds of them for their return of investment.

Don't know why these bumper are so rare, but the only one on ebay is selling for $44.95.
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Just putting everything together.

Thanks for Welshy for the rear gear box.



Doesn't it look just like a dead cow?

Looks awesome, nice job!
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Ema, yes that's correct! There might be a chance I will source for titanium or CF arms, but the original ones are strong enough. I have already found a aluminum alternative for LA-1 for the ball diff.

By the way, do any of you want a OT-93 Carbon Fibre moulded bumper? I found a supplier who can mould that perfectly (don't know if the Kyosho word will be on it or not). If I get more than 10 commitments, it could be ~$60 +/- $10 per bumper + shipping.

Fibre-lyte won't make it because they will need to make hundreds of them for their return of investment.

Don't know why these bumper are so rare, but the only one on ebay is selling for $44.95.
Daft question asking me as you already know the answer. Im going to have cf gearbox, pivot blocks, chassis, top deck, shock towers, steering plate, servo plate, L brace all in cf, so may as well have a bumper as well. :-)
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Daft question asking me as you already know the answer. Im going to have cf gearbox, pivot blocks, chassis, top deck, shock towers, steering plate, servo plate, L brace all in cf, so may as well have a bumper as well. :-)
Including me and Welshy, we have 2 for the CF bumper. I need 8 more people to commit before I order the batch.
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the down side with the avaliable alu diff pulleys are that there only six ball holes may by due to not neaded when drifting i dont know but anyway tamiya

is it the 414 or what ever tamiya maybe the 04 any way they have more holes and they have small delrin insert for the balls and are 32 teeth.

Also if one would like to really dig on the internet Robinson Racing used to make an alu diff pulley for the HPI belt cars BITD RS4 or what ever they are called but they are very rare have just seen one on the bay.

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the down side with the avaliable alu diff pulleys are that there only six ball holes may by due to not neaded when drifting i dont know but anyway tamiya

is it the 414 or what ever tamiya maybe the 04 any way they have more holes and they have small delrin insert for the balls and are 32 teeth.

Also if one would like to really dig on the internet Robinson Racing used to make an alu diff pulley for the HPI belt cars BITD RS4 or what ever they are called but they are very rare have just seen one on the bay.

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Well, it all depends on how many load you are putting into the diff.

More balls = less smooth because there is more surface area, but can handle more load (you cantighten it more)

Less balls = smoother but takes less load.

Since offroads usually want tighter diff in the front, and if you are afraid of over tightening it, then just put it in the rear.

The "Square" 31T Aluminum Pulley I have in front of me have 8 holes for balls. That's 2 holes less then the original one. And once it's assembled, it a lot less sloppy.
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Well, it all depends on how many load you are putting into the diff.

More balls = less smooth because there is more surface area, but can handle more load (you cantighten it more)

Less balls = smoother but takes less load.

Since offroads usually want tighter diff in the front, and if you are afraid of over tightening it, then just put it in the rear.

The "Square" 31T Aluminum Pulley I have in front of me have 8 holes for balls. That's 2 holes less then the original one. And once it's assembled, it a lot less sloppy.
well i guess not as woobly due to ballbering center but on the smooth side i always take more balls since thats what worked when i was driving 1/12

square,superijcon shop and 3 racing i would guess same manufacturer just different distributors and that wont be far of from the truth

any pics of the alu diff pulley with the out drives btw where did you get yourse from ???

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well i guess not as woobly due to ballbering center but on the smooth side i always take more balls since thats what worked when i was driving 1/12

square,superijcon shop and 3 racing i would guess same manufacturer just different distributors and that wont be far of from the truth

any pics of the alu diff pulley with the out drives btw where did you get yourse from ???

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I dont' have pictures right now, maybe tonight.

Just a side note, I notice you are talking about 32T diff pulley a few times already. I counted and recounted the teeth on my LA-1, there are only 31 teeth.
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I dont' have pictures right now, maybe tonight.

Just a side note, I notice you are talking about 32T diff pulley a few times already. I counted and recounted the teeth on my LA-1, there are only 31 teeth.
I do have to agree with ISO that the proto diffs i have do have more diff balls than LA1 but are smaller but much smoother
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3/32" is about as small as you can go without overstressing the assembly. 14 or even 16 balls would be awesome, allowing you to set the diff a little looser without it slipping due to the greater surface area.
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3/32" is about as small as you can go without overstressing the assembly. 14 or even 16 balls would be awesome, allowing you to set the diff a little looser without it slipping due to the greater surface area.
My diff has two extra balls and are smaller than the original.
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Ema, yes that's correct! There might be a chance I will source for titanium or CF arms, but the original ones are strong enough. I have already found a aluminum alternative for LA-1 for the ball diff.

By the way, do any of you want a OT-93 Carbon Fibre moulded bumper? I found a supplier who can mould that perfectly (don't know if the Kyosho word will be on it or not). If I get more than 10 commitments, it could be ~$60 +/- $10 per bumper + shipping.

Fibre-lyte won't make it because they will need to make hundreds of them for their return of investment.

Don't know why these bumper are so rare, but the only one on ebay is selling for $44.95.
OT-93 Rare? Are they......?
Oosh, now you know the reason why they are so extremely rare, because I have them all......
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OT-93 Rare? Are they......?
Oosh, now you know the reason why they are so extremely rare, because I have them all......
Swine...... :-(
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OT-93 Rare? Are they......?
Oosh, now you know the reason why they are so extremely rare, because I have them all......
Well, maybe not rare to you, but it is still rare to us.

I need 8 more commitments for the cf bumper. Anyone interested??
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Well, maybe not rare to you, but it is still rare to us.

I need 8 more commitments for the cf bumper. Anyone interested??
Yes I'am interested! Also interested in those nice blue belts.....and other parts in the future!
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