Kyosho Lazer ZXR

BORMAC · #1 13-04-2008

A while back I bought this Lazer from BENDER and I have been wanting to paint the ZXS shell which came trimmed but still clear. I thought it would look good in Optima livery so I wanted to have a go at it. Also after seeing Darryn (retro r/c) drive his ZXR and him letting me have a feel for the car I knew mine would end up at the track some day. Well that day came today. I set my Lazer up with a 19 turn Komodo and some fresh Hole Shot tyres and hit the Ryde track in Sydney.They weren't running a vintage class today but I was happy to slot in with the modern cars (mainly B44's). I was very suprised just how smooth this car drives and even though the rear end would brake loose a little out of the tighter corners the car was a real pleasure to drive. There's no doubt about it,I think this car could be raced at club level with the 08' model cars real easy.Sure it would be nice to have this car live out its life on a shelf but I prefer racing it at the track.

bender · #2 13-04-2008

Jason you have been busy - this is the third forum I've seen my old car today

Looks good - I think you should paint the wing though.

BORMAC · #3 13-04-2008

Hello Mr Bender.
Yes I thought you'd discover the car on a few threads. I have been thinking about painting the rear wing but I might wait till I get one a little wider (like the 501X wing).
Are you going to make the trip down for the vintage meet at Ryde? I am opening my house up to a handful of the regulars that are coming from interstate so I might as well offer you a place to stay also.You'd be very welcome.
When will we see some more pics of your cars/recent builds?

bender · #4 13-04-2008

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Are you going to make the trip down for the vintage meet at Ryde? I am opening my house up to a handful of the regulars that are coming from interstate so I might as well offer you a place to stay also.You'd be very welcome.
When will we see some more pics of your cars/recent builds?

Thanks for the offer, but I still haven't got a vintage runner yet

I'm thinking about getting one of those Fire Dragons just to have a cheap "new" vintage car. Haven't seen many Mid Optima's on ebay recently, which is what I'd like as a runner, or a Cougar II.

As for new builds, I'm trying to convince the missus to let me start collecting the Tamiya Semi Trailers - I don't think she's too happy about that

My latest car is a NIB RCL Incident - very rare - and cost me a fortune - but it's worth it!

BORMAC · #5 13-04-2008

Jas it may interest you to know that Darryn Johnson (retro r/c) here in Canberra is a very big fan of that car you have there. He has a couple if them and some crazy fully loaded and modified version to boot. you should ask him for some pics of it,it looks the ducks.
As for vintage runners,well if you wouldnt be happy enough to borrow one of my Cougar2 buggies then i could possibly sell or trade you a nice car. Either way i could definately get you on the track with something very respectable. I would even have a new unpainted repro bodyset for it too.
speaking of repro body sets, Keith at Kamtec is shiping me a few CAT XLS and Lazer ZXS bodies. FREE! What a great guy.

stulec52 · #6 13-04-2008

Jason,
that Lazer looks great !
really suits the original Optima colours. Although I to think the wing needs to be painted, even just white would work nice.

You missed out where you finshed with all those new shiny cars to run against?

BORMAC · #7 13-04-2008

I only got through 2 heats before the heavens opened up and a huge electrical and thunderstorm flooded Sydney. Bummer!

Welshy40 · #8 14-04-2008

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Originally Posted by BORMAC

A while back I bought this Lazer from BENDER and I have been wanting to paint the ZXS shell which came trimmed but still clear. I thought it would look good in Optima livery so I wanted to have a go at it. Also after seeing Darryn (retro r/c) drive his ZXR and him letting me have a feel for the car I knew mine would end up at the track some day. Well that day came today. I set my Lazer up with a 19 turn Komodo and some fresh Hole Shot tyres and hit the Ryde track in Sydney.They weren't running a vintage class today but I was happy to slot in with the modern cars (mainly B44's). I was very suprised just how smooth this car drives and even though the rear end would brake loose a little out of the tighter corners the car was a real pleasure to drive. There's no doubt about it,I think this car could be raced at club level with the 08' model cars real easy.Sure it would be nice to have this car live out its life on a shelf but I prefer racing it at the track.

Nice, well if you need any information for this car just look at radio control zone and under the ZX/ZXR thread all info is there for you. Yes this car still can easily kick these new shaft drive cars into the dust.

BORMAC · #9 15-04-2008

I just wanted to run by you guys what you think I could do to increase rear bite on this car out of corners? The rear end was pretty loose and after realising that the alloy rearmost arm retainer was on upside down I have spun it around which has given the rear arms more anti squat. Would be interetsed to hear any of your suggestions on camber link locations etc....

bender · #10 15-04-2008

Jason, on the back of the car, are you running both the alloy mounts (including the one that sits just behind the motor)?

If you are then you can replace that one with the kit plastic one - the plastic one is a bit narrower which will give you a bit more toe-in on the back.

Also I'd suggest running the rear rear shocks in the middle or outer hole in the suspension arm, and the inner hole on the tower.

BORMAC · #11 15-04-2008

Thanks Jas I'll have to give that a go. By the way I know someone in Melbounre who may part with his LYNX DOBERMAN nip kit if you are looking?

bender · #12 16-04-2008

Is it a LYnx or Doberman? I'm interested if the price is right

savageman25 · #13 16-04-2008

have any of you ever seen or even bought the kyosho zaboon? Its like a cheaper version of the zxr, if so does anyone no where i can get spares for one or if the zxr diff cases fit?

terry.sc · #14 16-04-2008

The Zaboon is a basic shaft drive car, so closer to the ZX5 than a ZX-R. And Zaboon spares can be ordered from any Kyosho retailer.

And you'll be sitting on a gold mine if you found a supply of Lazer ZX front gearboxes.

hardrider · #15 17-04-2008

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And you'll be sitting on a gold mine if you found a supply of Lazer ZX front gearboxes.

Is this due to the shock tower mount screws stripping?

terry.sc · #16 17-04-2008

Stripping threads is an easy fix, have a big accident and it will rip the mounting lug completely off one side of the gearbox.

hardrider · #17 17-04-2008

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Stripping threads is an easy fix, have a big accident and it will rip the mounting lug completely off one side of the gearbox.

Yikes!

Welshy40 · #18 17-04-2008

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Originally Posted by BORMAC

I just wanted to run by you guys what you think I could do to increase rear bite on this car out of corners? The rear end was pretty loose and after realising that the alloy rearmost arm retainer was on upside down I have spun it around which has given the rear arms more anti squat. Would be interetsed to hear any of your suggestions on camber link locations etc....

Well I see you are using the rear hub from the RB Type R, and if thats the case then you should have the three hole options on the wishbone, and if thats the case trial all three holes and see which gives more grip. I found on high grip surfaces the lowest hole worked well (the hubs bottom hole) and for low grip it may be better in the top hole.

Also have you tried the roll bar? Also I agree with what has been said but the plastic pivot block by the motor in plastic does break quite easily, so may be easier to get some one to machine one with a bit more toe in for the rear of the car. Also I would move the shock mount ball joint one hole outwards, and get Ujs for the rear, as they do make a difference. Also I found that like you if you get the tie rods and wishbones to angle the same together when you move the wishbone up and down then you are half way there.

Shocks, the front looks corrct, just reangle the rear to match the front angle - so top hole middle and the bottom wishbone hole either middle or outer. And get another shock tower to beef up the front as Terry is right, the front housings are not replaceable any more so better to beef it up with another shock tower than loose the front.

Also get some alloy pole x2 and screw between the wing holder as this will strengthen it and stop damage to the wing holder (as you see they bend without the poles)

HKP · #19 18-04-2008

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Also get some alloy pole x2 and screw between the wing holder as this will strengthen it and stop damage to the wing holder (as you see they bend without the poles)

Recommended! I lose track of how many of these I've bent something silly over the years...

Great to see these old cars being run again

Welshy40 · #20 19-04-2008

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Recommended! I lose track of how many of these I've bent something silly over the years...

Great to see these old cars being run again

Yup great cars and have a few great results to prove they were great. National champion (Jamie Booth), European champion (Ellis Stafford) and Worlds A finalist several times.

Anyway here is a couple of my car. sorry I couldnt find a piccy of the rear, as my camera is shot. You can just make out the bar on the wing in the first picture. The poles are the ones in the middle of the chassis, so not difficult to get your hands on.