Moto Arena THANK YOU !!

[edd kelly]

Originally Posted by Smartalec

I know, I only won because of the foams, it was nothing to do with consistant lapping, the last qualifyer beiing all 16 second laps apart from the 3 or 4 15 second ones LOL

Agree with the rubber only rule as i've only got the one set of foams that were made for me over 2 years ago LOL.

And hopefully Matt will get his finger out and make the rest of the jumps this week as he's nothing else to do

I practiced with some worn out ballistics and green mini's and they were fine, so don't acetone your tyres, get on down to the moto arena and use them up that way (until they tip the clay in)

Matt, would be a good idea to post some pictures on here throughout the week of the progress (jumps etc) to give everyone an idea of what's to come for next Tuesday ........... wood merchant is about a quarter of a mile from the track and will deliver 40 sheets of ply for free if asked , and there's a carpet shop in Northampton that can supply industrial (cheap) carpet in long roles. You don't need expensive Primafelt for these little babies, they'll run on anything

someone's been a busy boy or....just got alot of spare time on his hands.....the constant lapping was just a fluke i reckon......haaa,what about trying to get more young kids involved,a kids race would be great..and maybe kids could race for a £5 ..............

[Adam F]

Was a good night and definately glad I went, with a few more features it will be a definate weekly trip over!

Definately need a good supply of old rubber to destroy though.. found knackered yellow pins worked quite well if it helps.

Would also like to see some pics as and when of the new ramps and features..

[mattybucks]

Originally Posted by mk2kompressor

Shuey is now mine cheers Ed

Alec has a 2.5 that'll fit nicely into that for sale was you running that in you 511 last night mate? Maybe that's why you were 2 or 3 laps ahead all night......

My mate has some footage, hopefully he'll forward the link tonight.

Has anybody got a ramp designs they fancy sharing?

[Neil Skull]

Shame you dont want foams, I use them and they are awsome.
you do need to true every couple of runs though.
Their not too expensive!!! £6.25 for a cars worth of tires only.
Or i could get for about £35.00 glued and trued on rims. that is pricey to me.
I also recycle my rims so i can get 2 or 3 uses out of them.
Still whatever is used i am looking forward to having a play

[dale]

Foams may be awesome, but will the racing be better as a result of everyone having awesome grip?

Or will it result in faster motors, turbo escs, bigger batteries, drivetrain wear and more expensive crashes? Basically all the stuff you see in Touring Cars.

I think the racing will be better if everyone has an average amount of grip; enough to make the cars driveable, but not so much as to create a speed war. Most of the cars on rubbers last night looked good enough for some fun racing. Alec's foam car looked more like a touring car that could take jumps.

[tellor]

We don't want to use foams because we want to race off road, if we we use foams we might as well race touring cars. If you remember rightly this is exactly how TC started

Off road = No tarmac

On road = No dirt/dirt/jumps


Simples

[mattybucks]

Originally Posted by tellor

We don't want to use foams because we want to race off road, if we we use foams we might as well race touring cars. If you remember rightly this is exactly how TC started

Off road = No tarmac

On road = No dirt/dirt/jumps


Simples

Sorry Lee, despite being double european champion, your going to have to bulldoze that tarmac track you had build in your back garden as your not allowed to run you off road car on tarmac...................

[Smartalec]

As i've already said, the foams were a one-off set made for me and actually trued on buggy wheels to the same diameter as a set of minispikes so the car looks like a buggy as I can't stand the super thin touring car foams that were used in days gone by on buggies ............ they did look cack LOL

It wasn't until the car stopped moving that most people realised that they were foams and not rubber last night. But no one should get carried away and think there's any cheating going on, the idea was to try different tyres etc to see what works best.

I'll be back on rubber next week and anyone who wants to use the foams on their car (provided they fit) are welcome to give them a go ........... except for Truman 'cos he'll beat me whatever he uses LOL

[dale]

Originally Posted by Smartalec

It wasn't until the car stopped moving that most people realised that they were foams and not rubber last night. But no one should get carried away and think there's any cheating going on, the idea was to try different tyres etc to see what works best.

I could tell from up on the rostrum .

I agree its good to give them a try and see what the options are, at this stage the whole thing is going to evolve week by week; there aren't really any rules (yet) so you definitely weren't breaking them!

[mattybucks]

Alec

Let's face it mate you were 2 or 3 laps a head of me, which would have been the same distance had we been racing on any other track............ you big cheat!!!!

[Gareth Jones]

Any chance we can get an agreement on the controlled tyre before next week? I ran a bald set of Yellow Minispikes and in the final they became very shiny and had no grip at all.

I dont have many old sets of tyres so would like to get the right ones as I am planning on making the trip most weeks.

Gareth

[budgio]

A little bit from last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v7EXZ_ptIo

[Smartalec]

Originally Posted by Gazmidas

Any chance we can get an agreement on the controlled tyre before next week? I ran a bald set of Yellow Minispikes and in the final they became very shiny and had no grip at all.

I dont have many old sets of tyres so would like to get the right ones as I am planning on making the trip most weeks.

Gareth

Unfortunately Gareth until we know how much carpet and how much tarmac there is going to be there is no way anyone can tell which tyre will be best. As things are added I imagine we will see a favourite appear but until then we'll all be guessing I think. Last night the best tyres to use (excluding my cheating foams) were probably green minispikes or green ballistic buggy's, in my opinion (i've tried them), the worst of all were yellow minipins as they are actually quite stiff. If you've ever cut one in half you'll notice how thick the wall is in comparison to other tyres, so although they work well on carpet they are definitely not so good on tarmac.

[Adam F]

The worst were yellow mini pins

Now you tell me, I thought they were ok

[Smartalec]

Originally Posted by x313

Now you tell me, I thought they were ok

You should have asked LOL

[Smartalec]

Originally Posted by budgio

A little bit from last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v7EXZ_ptIo

You had to show my worst run Nick

[budgio]

Originally Posted by Smartalec

You had to show my worst run Nick

Of course

[mattybucks]

4wd final

http://www.youtube.com/user/rhythmic.../0/P0VJw3rLFjg

[slow bob]

will there be race results posted anywhere from week to week i know its early days but its something that people will want to see ...

i thought the venue was excelent and with time and guidence this could be the best indoor off road track in the uk but that said £10 for 3 hours of racing? might need to look at getting that price down £8/10 for six hours would be better

[Chris Doughty]

Originally Posted by dale

Foams may be awesome, but will the racing be better as a result of everyone having awesome grip?

Or will it result in faster motors, turbo escs, bigger batteries, drivetrain wear and more expensive crashes? Basically all the stuff you see in Touring Cars.

I think the racing will be better if everyone has an average amount of grip; enough to make the cars driveable, but not so much as to create a speed war. Most of the cars on rubbers last night looked good enough for some fun racing. Alec's foam car looked more like a touring car that could take jumps.

for what its worth, I agree with this.

typically, everyone will always have a stack of used/knackered yellow mini-spikes from club, national or any off-road meeting.

keep the carpet to a minimum so that worn 'off-road' tires dont suck more than new ones and have everyone running yellow mini-spikes.

Ive driven enough 'laps' in street testing to know that cars have a nice amount of grip on tarmac with worn yellow mini-spikes.