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Old 09-03-2007
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Scott,

It might be worth looking through the archives at the forum about the bearing mods that were carried out to the early x-10's and having a chat to the owners of these cars to find out why they did the modification in the first place.....they must have done this for a good reason.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268

It may or may not provide some of the answers to the "possible" spur problems and who knows...might provide some interesting ideas for the new x-11
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I would definately like to see an easier to set slipper (maybe a coil spring? or...?) so you have a bigger (even slightly) range of adjustment.
Wider rear wheels also would be good.
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Lets just first of all clear up one thing .....i am not anything at all to do with ttech ( so ideas thrown at me are a little wasted )
yes my brother Lewis owns ttech and hopefully (definately) will read this thread so maybe your inputs may sway certain decisions about the x11...maybe...
me comenting on this thread was purely to help people and sugest things that may have been over looked.
i myself/freinds have never had a spur problem you see.

just for Bert
here is a pic of ugly old me(unshaven,in need of hair cut,drinking beer) today the 9th of march holding my Durango 2005 in my kitchen....showing my todays local newspaper....and the latest edition of racer mag for proof that i still have the car!
www.rc10b4.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/3175/sort/1/cat/500/page/1
not realy sure why you asked but hopefully thats the end of that
if Bert you would like to buy it, and that was why you were asking....you kinda went about it the wrong way
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hope that cleared up a few things
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Also Bert i see you have a pic of the stig as your avatar
do you know who he is?
i do.....pm me
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Bert/Jimmy i am not happy at all with berts response
Scott I know who/wher Bert is if you'd like to go round with the 'lads'

His name is Eric and he lives at 29 Acacia Road and when he eats a banana an amazing transformation occurs......lol.
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Scott, yeah i understand what you're saying, and to a point agree - but i stand by my origional view that a duel pad slipper (with improved springing as Jimmy surgests) would be an improvement. That said, like i stated from the outset - i haven't ever stripped a spur. (que crunching sound next time i run car )

The transmission is generally good - as is the car, if i didn't believe this i wouldn't still be running it. That said, i don't think it's perfect (perfect car doesn't exist - but i think the one you have in your hand probably comes closest!!) and believe there are a few things that could be improved. Slipper is one area for me, as is diff outdrives. I think the diffs would be better if they suppported the plates properly.
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Best not Ernie might be there
and you dont want to mess with Ernie

probably not a good idea as my wife is a legal executive!

anyway you (the monk) cant blame me for having a little gripe with ernie or bert or what ever his name was forgotten!
he did call me a rather rude name for absolutely no reason (obviously off his head and needs putting down) on this public forum which can be read by women and little children+ inteligent people blush when they read stuff like that..and it puts them off
silly man but hey ho

could probably bash him a bit more but whats the point
its all fun and we are all freinds on here i would hope
anyway ive wasted enough time (i aint got) talking about rubbish now
and would very much like to get back on topic now
to sort out these pred mods....

cheers
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Scott i also know who bert is ! This is pic of when he was young !!!
Hes the one in the yellow teeshirt !!!
http://www.dudleyradiocarclub.co.uk/...s/himley_3.jpg

Now hes a bit older now and hes also done some modelling !!!!!!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/alpha...Your_a_fag.jpg

Just a bit of fun boyz
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Scott I understand your gripe, i saw the post! Round here that's fighting talk, it's not right but its good fun and you can hug it out after!!

Back to the pred, I some how managed to get jimmy's review car (no28) and it had the bearing mod! I belive that on the early x10's the spur is set further forward, perhaps this could be causing stripping spurs.
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Best not Ernie might be there
and you dont want to mess with Ernie

probably not a good idea as my wife is a legal executive!

anyway you (the monk) cant blame me for having a little gripe with ernie or bert or what ever his name was forgotten!
he did call me a rather rude name for absolutely no reason (obviously off his head and needs putting down) on this public forum which can be read by women and little children+ inteligent people blush when they read stuff like that..and it puts them off
silly man but hey ho

could probably bash him a bit more but whats the point
its all fun and we are all freinds on here i would hope
anyway ive wasted enough time (i aint got) talking about rubbish now
and would very much like to get back on topic now
to sort out these pred mods....

cheers
Start new thred for x10
this is more fun, Scott i like it when u have a dig at bert
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this is more fun, Scott i like it when u have a dig at bert
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Also Bert i see you have a pic of the stig as your avatar
do you know who he is?
i do.....pm me
its me thats my photo where else could it of come from
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Hey Matt w
I take it by plates you meen diffrings?
and this is some thing again that i personaly havent had a problem with but i know some have snapped rings?
and yes they seem to sit a little odd on the outdrives but they seem to work.
one thing i personaly love about the predn X10 is its super free transmission!
have you ever known a car with no motor in to be so free?

All cars i believe have floors (dont even start asking us to name)
but thats the nature of the game (tech sport....i like to call it)

the pred is an xtremely advanced car......for instance....when i measure most cars geometry an odd pattern starts to occur
they are uncanily similar (lots)
you see most cars have say a 75mm long wishbone (for arguments sake)
with a slightly shorter top arm (camber) this gives camber change.....yes...with me so far..bear with me..
The good old pred has huge length wishbones (actualy longer than a LOSIxxxt/associated T4 trucks) with very short top arms (camber) but still has the same amount of camber change as the other cars....weird....

its the only car that i know that does this and geometricaly is a work of art....
and is the only buggy i know of that uses KPI (king pin inclination)
and i could keep banging on and on but i will spare you

and i have spoken to a few other manufacturers that agree that geometricaly the pred is awesome (probably the best) and they thought that richards ideas and understanding were phenomanol

thanks
that old durango,s quite good as well
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one thing i personaly love about the predn X10 is its super free transmission!
have you ever known a car with no motor in to be so free?
The HPI Pro4
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Things I would see changed before I ever would part cash for an X10

Slipper plates with pads, the gear material should not be used as a stressed part of the drivetrain.
more resilient spurs
A propper stiff coiled spring (that don't got coil nound to get the slipper to stop slipping) as conical washers tend to be a more on/off affair.
Propshaft tied into the motor mount, to reduce and deflection (which is only minor)
Prop shaft to be assembled in the kit, not left to chance by the customer.
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Scott, yeah plates/rings, same thing. Again, i haven't had a problem either, but i have seen some that have. I always believe that the carrier should be incontact with the ring on the same pcd as the balls - just for more support and hence more consistancy.

You're right that most cars now have similar geometry - some of them even use the same bits as we all know.
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