Durango at the Worlds

[Origineelreclamebord]

Originally Posted by CARB

yep you are so right, you do not do your development in public a real dumb assed idea, yet Schumacher did the same thing

Testing in public I'd say isn't the issue... it's using a mostly untested car at the Worlds (they would've been better off doing that a few weeks earlier, or even at the warm-up).

There are other factors too - a major one may be that the track couldn't be as consistently prepped as usual due to the weather... Struggling with an untested car is one thing, if the grip levels change in the meantime that doesn't help either.

All in all it's pretty disappointing though: I thought TD could have been in shape to actually take the Worlds, especially after the win at the Euros with a prototype 210. Ah well, let's give them time to further develop the 210V2 so it will be the dominant car on the grid

[AfroP]

Originally Posted by CARB

yep you are so right, you do not do your development in public a real dumb assed idea, yet Schumacher did the same thing

Schumacher had the SV2 and the prototype belt drive car. Tom chose to run the prototype.
That prototype looks pretty close to production based on the shell off pictures and article on redrc

[rcjunky]

and the body looks factory as well, a big expense just for a prototype, the same reason I figured the 22-4 was near production ready from the first spy shots of the car. Still disapointed to see no Durango cars in the show, and that no one runs the xfactory car... 4wd should go will for the TD team hopefully, nothing to radical for the v4 car unless they're running a prototype new car/v5

[t8rtot]

Originally Posted by CARB

yep you are so right, you do not do your development in public a real dumb assed idea, yet Schumacher did the same thing

Amost every company tests in public.. If they had one more round TD, Serpent, and more Kyosho's could've squeezed in.. No better place to do R&D than at actual races. The info they pick up is incredibly valuable. Especially if this sugared track thing starts to becomes the norm..

Only XRAY and losi shy away from testing at competition

[metoo]

Originally Posted by t8rtot

Amost every company tests in public.. If they had one more round TD, Serpent, and more Kyosho's could've squeezed in.. No better place to do R&D than at actual races. The info they pick up is incredibly valuable. Especially if this sugared track thing starts to becomes the norm..

Only XRAY and losi shy away from testing at competition

Nothing wrong with being an actual event. I just should have been a less important event. Sugared tracks are not likely to be the norm for local tracks and club racing, which is were most purchased products will be used.

[OneKiwi]

Jörns proto
He said he tried the old car and the new and settled on the new as it was better.
Saying in one of the previous rounds that the old car was too aggressiv and the new had understeer but safer

If and when they release this if being the main word then I could absolutly swap back to the 410



And Lutz

[t8rtot]

Originally Posted by metoo

Nothing wrong with being an actual event. I just should have been a less important event. Sugared tracks are not likely to be the norm for local tracks and club racing, which is were most purchased products will be used.

Although they may not be the norm for us, TD and everyone else has to have cars that can win on these surfaces when the situation arises.

So for the events (the races the sponsored guys will be attending) this is valuable experience.

Also there are pictures on Neo, of the car in what looks a shorty configuration, i.e. like kyosho and HB layouts

[jaank]

Nice to see a new layout in the 4WD.
Putting the lipos so far back looks fresh.

EDIT: I think there might be different prototypes going around the track.

[OneKiwi]

[micholix]

I found some pics of Lutz v3 on redrc, have look at the middle driveshafts!

[micholix]

Rear driveshaft.

[Kosmickid]

Nice. I hope these make production. Much more durable/reliable and rugged than the current cvd's.

[rcjunky]

Thats not a v3

[micholix]

Hello everyone!

Some speculation....
I had a closer look at the prototype chassis plate i found on neobuggy.
It looks like, the metalplate in the middle is out of different material( not aluminium) than the chassis and with more or less screws you can increase chassisflex!?

What do you think?

[Legacy555]

Originally Posted by micholix

Hello everyone!

Some speculation....
I had a closer look at the prototype chassis plate i found on neobuggy.
It looks like, the metalplate in the middle is out of different material( not aluminium) than the chassis and with more or less screws you can increase chassisflex!?

What do you think?

Looks like they were looking for more drive off the jumps without loosing steering in the tight sections. Stiff aft of spur, flexible forward of spur (plastic side pods etc)
I wouldn't have bothered with the esc + receiver opposite a shorty.
Maybe motor opposite a shorty - easily done if you flip the diffs to get the right rotation.
Saddles all the way back, with the spur assembly moved back too and a proper top brace from rear bulkhead to motor mount might have been worth trying...
Plenty of cash spent machining those alloy bulkheads and battery straps.... you'll never see those in a kit box

[DEXtrain]

I bet this is just the bent chassis of Lutz - the brace is bent also - they attached it too low . The chassis under it might be a good one not bent , the guy holding it tries to see the extent of the damage/how badly bent it is

Originally Posted by micholix

Hello everyone!

Some speculation....
I had a closer look at the prototype chassis plate i found on neobuggy.
It looks like, the metalplate in the middle is out of different material( not aluminium) than the chassis and with more or less screws you can increase chassisflex!?

What do you think?

[triplesix]

obsolete - please delete

[micholix]

Originally Posted by DEXtrain

I bet this is just the bent chassis of Lutz - the brace is bent also - they attached it too low . The chassis under it might be a good one not bent , the guy holding it tries to see the extent of the damage/how badly bent it is

I think, the brace is good, but i'm not sure!? Because on this picture you can see, that the rear suspension holder, or the bulkhead is between the brace and the chassis?

Edit: sorry, you are right, on a closer look, i saw, that the brace have a non paralell angle!

[Allan1875]

It was Amezcua running the shorty.

[DEXtrain]

Originally Posted by Allan1875

It was Amezcua running the shorty.

yes that one is ok. the other one got the Lutzinator treatment