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07-09-2008
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F1 GP SPA
....what a great race!...a shame that alonso made the switch to rain tires one lap to late, would have been nice to see him on the podium....
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07-09-2008
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shame about Raikkonen though, he drove a good race until he binned it.
hats off to Lewis; what a drive in the wet! and Heidfeld who made up about 7 places on those last laps! fantastic race  and some of you were saying Formula 1 is boring 
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07-09-2008
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Really good race towards the end!
Great drive by Lewis at the end, it was brilliant watching him closing the gap to Raikonnen and then his overtaking manouvers. Big shame about Raikonnens crash at the end, he had run such a good race aswell up to that point. Even second would have brought him back into the championship. 
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07-09-2008
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07-09-2008
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Seems like the FIA have it in for McLaren AGAIN!
was a nail biting last few laps for sure. Although the McLaren driver appeared to lift off and was repassed by Raikkonen on the exit of the corner, the stewards ruled that he had gained an advantage by short-cutting the circuit. "The stewards, having received a report from the race director and having met with the drivers and team managers involved, have...determined a breach of the regulations has been committed by the competitor and impose the penalty referred to," said an FIA statement. Hamilton was deemed to have "cut the chicane and gained an advantage", thereby breaching Article 30.3(a) of the sporting regulations and Appendix L chapter 4 Article 2 (g) of the International Sporting Code. Did he really have much choice!?
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07-09-2008
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Stewards side.
I think what they are getting at is the fact that although Hamilton had no choice as to cutting the corner, as he was coming out of the second part of the chicane onto the straight, hamilton didnt give Raikonnen a clear advantage [the mclaren being behind the ferrari, as it would have done exiting the corner normally] until after they went over the start/finish line where Hamilton had to move anyway to get a clear run at Corner 1. Hamiltons side of the argument. He had no choice as to where he went mid corner due to how Raikonnen positioned his car [which he is entitled to do] and so Hamilton cut the corner meaning he cannot take advantage of the cut. When exitting the corner Hamilton only lifted off a slight bit, and so he didn't get an advantage. Following this he was behind Raikonnen before making his move on the next corner. My opinion. I think there was no problem in him cutting the corner. But, Although hamilton did give space to make up for the corner cut, I do agree that he could have lifted off a bit more to give Raikonnnen a clearer advantage to avoid an investigation into it because he could have still made the same move on turn 1 if he had given more room to his opposition. I do however disagree with the penalty and think there shouldn't be one because Raikonnen still crashed out and so there would have been no change in order whether Hamilton had left the bigger gap or not.
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he didnt have any choice on where to go. It was either cut the corner or slam into the side of Kimi!!
The whole thing is a farce as Hamilton did what he was suposed to do and surrendered the posistion back. Lets just hope that mclaren have enough guts to apeal against the decison.
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from what i`m led to believe Ferrari are the only team on the fia board
 .hmm,im`m sure f1 is rigged in there favour.its not right and they wonder why people dont watch it!!! there are so many decisions that go their way it untrue.should we start an hate the fia/ferrari campaign??
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I hope McLaren campaign aswell. If Ferrari weren't involved in said incident then I bet there wouldn't have even been a campaign
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07-09-2008
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im gutted in lewis been dropped to 3rd BUT in my veiw its not the corner cut what was the problem it was the way he let him back past he should have just waited even after turn 1 as he was so much quicker he would have got him and then there would have been no investergation
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07-09-2008
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I'm a lifelong F1 and Ferrari Fan, but the course of the last 2 years has made me feel ashamed of the absolute bias and veiled corruption in F1.
Todays ruling is a joke, especially after the also rather strange decision from the post race incident after the last grandprix in which ferrari got off breaking the rules in the pits.. Hamilton deserved the win fair and square, its a joke.
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07-09-2008
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...a shame they "stole" hamiltons win! was all fair on track in my opinion. mclaren should be VERY careful with their actions right now, I would not protest if I were them! incidents in the past showed that protesting can easily worsen the punishment! -> 1 race ban, 10 places grid-drop etc. ....
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as much as I am a Hamilton fan, I think that if he didn't slow enough to allow Raikonen a fair lead, and, if anything, over following Raikonen through the chicane, he found hinself far closer to Raikonen, allowing the overtaking manouvre....
I don't think it deserved a 25 second penalty, also, the fact that Raikonen also binned it... and it just so happens to bring Massa within 2 point.... all feels to much like puppets on strings.
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07-09-2008
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Unfortunately for Hamilton Kimi is now in a backup role and can help Massa, Heikki isn't in the same league at the moment so Lewis is on his own to win with the FIA against him, joy. Then they wonder why people think F1 is a crock.
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I was chatting to a Ferrari nut this evening, and even he says, it stinks.....
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07-09-2008
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I'm just not going to watch F1 again.
Sad but what is the point when the governing body is so clearly corrupt, who could possibly fix the thing that is supposed to make it fair?
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Basically they're favouring ferrari once again.They broke the rules in valencia and the driver got a fine....big deal! If you cause an 'unavoidable accident' (as koveleinen did) and you get penalised....you 'avoid' an accident, and you get penalised?! Whats that all about? They can't say that Hamilton didn't give Kimi enough of an advantage, because as they entered the chicane, Hamilton was actually ahead until they got to the apex. So technically hamilton DID hinder himself to give the possision back. Its ruined what was an awesome last 4 laps...once again! It all stinks. Anything to stop Ferrari from whingeing. What has our boy got to do to win this championship?! I think Mclaren are right to appeal.
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