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Old 21-09-2015
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i think 1.7 on the rear pistons is fine, possibly depending on where you are running the shocks.

1.6 on the front does seem a little soft, but handles well.

Im currently running much harder springs, Yatabe purple on the front and yatabe orange on the rear
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Old 21-09-2015
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Hi, Thought I would join in with the setup chat. I also ran my Evo at Torch Sunday with TQ and fastest lap. Car was fantastic and reacts well to setup changes. I ran 1.6 2 hole pistons f&R with 32.5 oils and AE springs.
I used to race a ZX6 so followed a similar setup in roll centers and shock positions.
I love a pointy car and this has plenty. Hopefully try even more setups this weekend. Was running 500k but going for 1million in the center diff.
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So do you all run shorty setup?
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What height for cars you are runing?
Do you use any option parts? except springs
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U mean ride height?

17 to 19 ish indoors. 19 to 22 ish outdoors depending on the surface
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So do you all run shorty setup?
Yup. I think you have to now to stay truly competitive. All other manufacturers have gone shorty.
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Hi, Thought I would join in with the setup chat. I also ran my Evo at Torch Sunday with TQ and fastest lap. Car was fantastic and reacts well to setup changes. I ran 1.6 2 hole pistons f&R with 32.5 oils and AE springs.
I used to race a ZX6 so followed a similar setup in roll centers and shock positions.
I love a pointy car and this has plenty. Hopefully try even more setups this weekend. Was running 500k but going for 1million in the center diff.
Wow I can see why muggers thought 1.6 was too soft with 32.5wt in there.

I have 50wt with 1.6 at the moment and it's still a tad soft for high grip. I think I'll be running 60w tomorrow night
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U mean ride height?

17 to 19 ish indoors. 19 to 22 ish outdoors depending on the surface
yes I meant ride height.
Thank you!
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So here we go, second night with the car, starting to understand it a bit now.
after 2 good runs in Q1 and Q2 where the transponder missed 2 laps in each, i held back for a clean run in Q3 and put it 3rd on the grid.

Had pace in the final to push for the win but made a silly mistake and blew the chance. Here is my final setup. Car was very stable and responsive. No grip roll or issues. Probably not far off what will become my base carpet setup now.

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So here we go, second night with the car, starting to understand it a bit now.
after 2 good runs in Q1 and Q2 where the transponder missed 2 laps in each, i held back for a clean run in Q3 and put it 3rd on the grid.

Had pace in the final to push for the win but made a silly mistake and blew the chance. Here is my final setup. Car was very stable and responsive. No grip roll or issues. Probably not far off what will become my base carpet setup now.

Thank you Steve for the first setup aviliable here!

1.6x2 and 1.7x2 pistons you got from stock ones, just drilled biger holes, right?

Is it this track you are runing this setup? http://www.maritimeracing.info/?page_id=128 ?

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Thank you Steve for the first setup aviliable here!

1.6x2 and 1.7x2 pistons you got from stock ones, just drilled biger holes, right?

could you please show also your track layout pictures, so to understand how close it could be for our carpet track.

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i dont have any pictures of track. Its racing carpet laid over a wooden floor though. with a couple of small sections of shiny wood.

1.6 pistons in the front are a little soft, not enough pack, so will be going back to 1.5 once they arrive with Answer RC
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i dont have any pictures of track. Its racing carpet laid over a wooden floor though. with a couple of small sections of shiny wood.

1.6 pistons in the front are a little soft, not enough pack, so will be going back to 1.5 once they arrive with Answer RC
Thank`s! it sound very close as our track is small, tight, with several small edgy ramps.
On Friday my EVO will arrive, so will start with similar setup as yours.
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There's a guy on youtube who's just done a few videos of the 104 evo on youtube called randy slagle he talks about the differenvessel between the evo and ek1, also mentioned on the build that the manual shows the installation of the diff but advises it's wrong and should be flipped before install... anyone else notice that? just don't want to end up building it the wrong way when it comes
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There's a guy on youtube who's just done a few videos of the 104 evo on youtube called randy slagle he talks about the differenvessel between the evo and ek1, also mentioned on the build that the manual shows the installation of the diff but advises it's wrong and should be flipped before install... anyone else notice that? just don't want to end up building it the wrong way when it comes
ignore the differences - its a much better car thats all that matters.

manual shows diffs for saddle config rather than shorty.
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I've built my car now but not yet put any power though it. I've installed my diffs as per the manual so am I expecting to be going in reverse??

Has anybody tried the 1million centre diff oil yet? I've built mine with the stuff, tricky stuff to use as it's so thick!


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Looking forward to seeing you run it on Sunday at bury chris
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Yeah I'm looking forward to it too. I've been checking over the car this week and would say it's just about ready to rock.

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have you painted the body yet
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I'm interested this car in comparison with others, maybe after first impressions you guys can post some comparisons with cars you drove before?
Interested brands:
this vs k1 vs bmax vs 22-4 vs xray on tight carpet track.
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I'm interested this car in comparison with others, maybe after first impressions you guys can post some comparisons with cars you drove before?
Interested brands:
this vs k1 vs bmax vs 22-4 vs xray on tight carpet track.

All are very different cars and comparing them is very difficult when they suit different peoples driving styles.

Having driven all the cars you list, i would say the S104 Evo has the aggression of the bmax 4 iii and xray, but with the movement of the k1. by that i mean it has a lot of weight transfer FR and LR. a bit like the D413 does.

it is going to get some good results very soon
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