New rules here . . . at last

[ianhaye]

but the motors on the brca list ant axactly all nice and cheap ones witch then defeats the low cost that u are trying to keep, sound be 2 classes g2 4cell and unlimted, job done, 4cell for newbies and unlimted for thous with nice pockets :-)

[mcjjordan]

whats the cheapest on the list then?

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Originally Posted by Tezcat

I would have thought so and same with the lipo too.

Let's see what the answer is.

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing

But if it's not on the BRCA EB listing it won't be legal for a National which would be a BRCA sanctioned event

from the bible

The Control of Batteries and Motors.

This works quite simply, with homologation lists produced to inform members what Batteries and Motors are legal to use (and when) at BRCA sanctioned events.

The lists for approved motors are constantly changing, so the BRCA website is used as the point of reference. If a particular make of Battery or Motor is not listed as approved for use, on the homologation lists detailed on this website, it cannot be used at BRCA sanctioned events.

Batteries: - The approval of batteries is limited to once each year. New batteries (cells) have to be submitted to the (EB) by the end of Dec. latest. The (EB) then requires verification from the manufacturer or distributor, that any new cell will be available in the UK in sufficient quantities. Providing a cell complies with the technical specifications and the (EB) are satisfied with the availability criteria, it will be added to the approved list.

The approved list is updated each Jan., but any new cell that has been added does not become legal for use at BRCA sanctioned events until 1st.April following. No new cells will be added to the list during the year. This process informs members of what new cells are allowed before the racing season starts and ensures that any cells purchased are not
out-dated during the racing season.

Motors: - manufacturers on a regular basis release new motors. Because of the spread of events within the various Electric Sections, it would not be practical to limit the homologation of motors to specific dates in the year.

New motors can be submitted to the (EB) for approval at any time in the year. Before a new motor can be added to the relevant homologation list, the (EB) check with the distributor that a significant number have been received in the UK. Providing the new motor submitted complies with technical specifications and the required numbers have been received in the UK, the motor will be added to the homologation list on the website. To make it simple to follow any updates, the (EB) will only add new motors to the homologation lists on Mondays of any particular week.

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Originally Posted by mcjjordan

whats the cheapest on the list then?

let every one know when you've googled them all

[urstu]

Hi if you run a section within the brca it is up to your particular section what motor and batt rules you run.
There is no mention of the rules put forward being changed,so if anyone goes out and buys an Eceed motor and speed control off the list, and one cell lipo they might have to throw them away at the end of the year because they are not on the BRCA list.These rules have been put forward by a committie of people who hope to be affiliated to the BRCA so these rules must stand until an a AGM .Stu

[truggy lover]

annoying cant get on the brca motor list apge any one else having probs

[stevo16v]

http://www.brca.org/?q=content/homol...1-updates/1402
its painfull to find

[truggy lover]

cheers fella

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing

ALL Motor's & Batteries need to be on the BRCA EB list to be eligable for a BRCA sanctioned event

Motors and batteries have to be on the BRCA EB lists only if the section decides to use the EB homologation lists.

The bike section proved a great reason for having well defined rules, or using the EB list if it includes compatible motors. At the 2007 worlds the only stock class rule was the motor had to be 27 turns, the final was won by a 27T motor hand wound by Corally in a modified can. Not something that's likely to happen with brushless though.

There is no requirement for any section to stick to the EB lists, it is down to each section to decide. The Mardave G2 used by the oval, bike and F1 classes isn't on any BRCA list. The bikes also alllow any motor at all in superbikes and any battery under 7.5v which is why most run soft pack lipos.

If the section is going to be BRCA affiliated then the decision to change the rules to use the EB list will be down to the members to make at the AGM, it can't be imposed on the class.

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Originally Posted by terry.sc

Motors and batteries have to be on the BRCA EB lists only if the section decides to use the EB homologation lists.

I stand corrected

[truggy lover]

surely thats a big can of worms to open unless they give a list of there own to be used

[truggy lover]

also if advance time/boost speedo's are not used i would also like to see the banning of advance timed motors i.e. only fixed timed motors

[stevo16v]

hows this for a can of worms
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
13.5 turn 6000kv
most 13.5 turn are 2500kv
the exceed is 3500kv that why people are raving how fast they are,but this little motor will blow them all away and is legal in the proposed rules

[truggy lover]

no it isnt thats a 380 motor meaning its a micro motor so no good to man nor beast

[Churk]

Originally Posted by truggy lover

also if advance time/boost speedo's are not used i would also like to see the banning of advance timed motors i.e. only fixed timed motors

No because even if you can alter the timing of a motor it is still fixed it does not alter through the rev range like it would on a speedo.
What you might gain on revs by turning up the timing you would lose on tourque.

[stevo16v]

its a 380 motor /put on the mardave adapter plate and away you go
the ezrun motor people are using are 380 motors win a bigger fined can and there fast and rated at 3300kv ,i used one in my lwb shark and they were balistic,they would have no problem at all pullin the mardave,

[Dreadstar]

Only one problem with that Steve,and that is the shaft size.The shaft on these little 1/18th motors is only 2mm,and you'll be hard pushed to mount a Mardave pinion onto there,without it being off-centre. OOPs sorry,I see that the Novak is a 3.18mm shaft rather than the Ezrun motors which are 2mm. It's true that you could fit it in a Dave,but it's not designed to push a kilogramme weight around a track,not without causing serious heat problems.

[Chippy96]

Hi guys,the EZRUN motors that have an even amount of turns,ie;9,10,13ect are 380 size motors but in a 540 size can(as Steve has put earlier-with cooling fins).The motors with .5 of a turn such as 13.5,8.5 ect are full size 540 motors,shaft thickness is the same.The older spec 13.5 is rated at 3300kv,for some reason the newer one(darker blue in colour) is a lot less 2000 odd-i dont know why,i`ll see if I can find out cheers PC.

[teamorsum96]

there we go, cant go wrong with just a G2 lol

[truggy lover]

Originally Posted by teamorsum96

there we go, cant go wrong with just a G2 lol

Fah lol