Faulty wheels nuts!?

[captainlip]

Quick question but is the thread for the nuts imperial or metric?

[Dazzler]

M4 metric... Want to buy some, I have a thousand... But only ever used 4!

[captainlip]

Gonna try some serrated lock washers to to see if it helps, worth trying I guess

[Dazzler]

I think northy's suggestion that the wheels are rotating / moving on the hexes is a good call, as realistically, this is the only reason why they would come loose. Have you looked closely at the hexes in the wheels? You could also Try holding the two rear wheels, and say the front right, then try to rotate the front left anti clockwise and see if it does try to slip on the hex... Don't go mad and damage anything though.. Your looking at forces similar to braking.

[leeboy44]

Originally Posted by captainlip

Gonna try some serrated lock washers to to see if it helps, worth trying I guess

try these pal,
http://www.orbitalfasteners.co.uk/de...-Nut-6949.html

you can buy 1 or 100000 and try the serrated washers with them

these nuts are used on aircraft but remember once the on the aircraft they dont come on and off like wheel nuts but these are expensive for a reason THERE GOOD AND DO THE JOB

there £0.16p a nut where if you buy a normal nut from these ppl there £0.3p

let me know what you think there is only 14 in stock i bought 100 and change them now and then to be sure

i just use m4 flat washers

[Dazzler]

I think that your car will become too wide for it to comply with brca regulations if you use those, as the serrated nuts with drive shafts dressed flush with the face is about the limit. ok for club or bashing...

Originally Posted by leeboy44

try these pal,
http://www.orbitalfasteners.co.uk/de...-Nut-6949.html

you can buy 1 or 100000 and try the serrated washers with them

these nuts are used on aircraft but remember once the on the aircraft they dont come on and off like wheel nuts but these are expensive for a reason THERE GOOD AND DO THE JOB

there £0.16p a nut where if you buy a normal nut from these ppl there £0.3p

let me know what you think there is only 14 in stock i bought 100 and change them now and then to be sure

i just use m4 flat washers

[HyperFX]

This thread is still going?!!
I figured the wheels would have fallen off by now.

[leeboy44]

Originally Posted by Dazzler

I think that your car will become too wide for it to comply with brca regulations if you use those, as the serrated nuts with drive shafts dressed flush with the face is about the limit. ok for club or bashing...

these fit on my car and thred of the drive shaft is still showing, so that being a standard size shaft should be ok??

got me worried now

[Dazzler]

Originally Posted by leeboy44

these fit on my car and thred of the drive shaft is still showing, so that being a standard size shaft should be ok??

got me worried now

The nuts I am using are 4.5mm wide and with both drive shafts ground flush with the face of these, it makes a pass in the BRCA box.. Camber adjustments can also help or hinder the width, but you want to be able to adjust this to suit the car, not the box. Measure up, you might be ok.

[Adam Skelding]

Captainlip
Question 1.
The crunch spacer in your wheel. Is is a yellow alloy one or a black one?

Question 2.
Have you checked the bearings in the front wheel? If any is seized then your wheel will always come undone. This is the most likely cause.

Might be worth giving your car a once over.

All the team use stock parts.

If the wheel is coming off and you have the steel crunch spacer in. There lies another issue which is almost 100% bearing related.

Might be time to give your car a once over.

Originally Posted by captainlip

I'll post what I wat about something I spend my hard earned money on, and if it's not upto scratch I want to know why, I'm entitled to raise points about poor manufacturing when it's costing me race wins, I bought a Durango for it's "well machined" engineering! What a load of cock that is!

Yes I'm using Durango serrated wheel nuts.

Out of interest when I'm going round high speed corners rather than the wheel being smooth there is a wobble in the steering like the wheels are coming of this must exaggerate the nuts coming loose?

[Adam Skelding]

Having been the one that 'stripped' and rebuilt your diffs. Are you calling me a liar? Your bearings were completely shot.

Hmmm. Not exactly your most well thought out comment.

We took plenty of pictures and info regarding your diffs and could post them on here. Wonder if you might see the sarcasm in that?

However. As a professional company, we do our level best to help people who contact us directly. I'm pretty sure that everyone that has contacted us direct has been satisfied. I'm guessing your diffs work fine now as ther has been no posts.

Forum's are a great place for getting tips and also banter. But for slagging off and slander. I'm not so sure. If you have an issue contact us we have 'social skills' and about 100 years of RC experience in the office.

As much as I'm a fan of free speech, there is a limit.

Be thoughtful of what you write, it might just come back and haunt you.

Originally Posted by captainlip

Posting these threads will get you somewhere as can share any problems or tips to stop wheels coming off, clearly others have the same problem.

And as for ringing Durango, that call cost me £60 as I sent the diffs for Durango to look at, when I called again they said they had located the issue and diffs are on the way back to me, next thing I get an email asking for £60, they had rebuilt the diffs and replaced parts regardless of cost and without informing the customer, so I wa left with the choice of £60 bill suprise or my original diffs returned to me free but in bits and still a mess, and in true fashion was given a load of bull of how it was user error regarding diff cases and bearings, what pissed me off was it was clear bull as the bearings were fine when sent off and the diff cases are moulded at Durango, not my fault they can't hold the bearings in place like they should have done, so again cases weren't even fit for purpose, and again I'm not the only one with this issue as everyone is sticking tape inside the cases to support the bearings

So less of the "must be you" nonsense, I'm sure I've the brains to at least screw a wheel nut on.

[leeboy44]

loads of guys have tried to help the pr*ck and all he does is come back to slag you and your helping skills off,

ive had it with him and if its a simple problem hes got and in 100% know how to fix it i wont be telling him how.

hes a totally ungrateful git how jumps in at the deep end winding us up

its a shame but i guess every forums got to have 1 of them

[Cardnim]

I love the Internet

[captainlip]

They are the alloy ones, and I rebuild the buggy after every two race meets. The bearings are ok and moving freely, everything else is as new. As per your next post I cant help but say the supplied bearings could be better.

I don't see this thread slanderous to Durango, it's clearly just some frustration at wheel nuts falling off no direct comment. Secondly the thread was to start a good bit of banter but people take their toys far to seriously, it's just buggy racing

Originally Posted by Adam Skelding

Captainlip
Question 1.
The crunch spacer in your wheel. Is is a yellow alloy one or a black one?

Question 2.
Have you checked the bearings in the front wheel? If any is seized then your wheel will always come undone. This is the most likely cause.

Might be worth giving your car a once over.

All the team use stock parts.

If the wheel is coming off and you have the steel crunch spacer in. There lies another issue which is almost 100% bearing related.

Might be time to give your car a once over.

[Adam Skelding]

Originally Posted by captainlip

They are the alloy ones, and I rebuild the buggy after every two race meets. The bearings are ok and moving freely, everything else is as new. As per your next post I cant help but say the supplied bearings could be better.

I don't see this thread slanderous to Durango, it's clearly just some frustration at wheel nuts falling off no direct comment. Secondly the thread was to start a good bit of banter but people take their toys far to seriously, it's just buggy racing

If it's the alloy ones. Then there lies your problem
Your kit must be an old one as these were discontinued in kits about a year ago.
They are now replaced with:
http://www.team-durango.com/part-inf...artNo=TD310032
&
http://www.team-durango.com/part-inf...artNo=TD714001 for the rear.

I'd advise you to put these in. Your alloy spacer will not be doing the job it should. It will have become crushed and not be supporting the bearings anymore.

[captainlip]

Will look at those ta!

[captainlip]

To double check these are the parts that go through the middle of the bearings?

[Adam Skelding]

Yes. They are the parts that sit between the bearings.

[captainlip]

I've rebuilt the 4 driveshafts this morning and it appears the driveshaft pins were worn causing excess movement / vibrations causing the wheels nuts to come loose. Can't be the wheel nuts as had brand new core rc nuts on last night and twice the wheels came off.

[Big G]

I snapped a rear pin and the wheel fell off straight away. That's the only time it's ever happened.