2008 Battery Rule? - Page 2

JCJC · #21 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by OldTimer

Hard cased lipos would be a nice addition.

Good thinking, Lipo must be a way forward.

Wraggy · #22 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by ben

I dont think it will be effecting regionals. Just nationals and euros. So i wouldnt worry about buying new cells. Im sure the brca will be making the right decision

LiL ben

Regionals will be affected also Ben , as all regionals are run to BRCA rules ..

Northy · #23 04-01-2008

They are in a 'sense', but the region can choose to opt out of certain things, like in the NE we ran brushless for a year before you could at the Nats.

The NE currently chooses to run motors and cells to the BRCA homologation lists as it's easier, but that might not always be the case

G

Doomanic · #24 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by bert digler

who is doing these tests are they consultant experts in cell technology or laymen

It is most like to be Paul Worsley.

bert digler · #25 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Doomanic

It is most like to be Paul Worsley.

i think neil oliver should be consulted as he is a professional in this field

also if there is a change how available would legal equipment be and at what cost?

Northy · #26 04-01-2008

Trust me Paul knows all there is to know about most things! He is more than capable of doing the job.

Part of the specs to go on the list of approved cells is how many are available. Worry not people.

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josh_smaxx · #27 04-01-2008

Ye, no good for the masses if theres loads available but there £40-£56 a pack and theyve just bought 5 packs of illegal ones that were legal

Looks like im gonna have to sweet talk someone in the family

frogger · #28 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by OldTimer

Hard cased lipos would be a nice addition.

Absolutely. Hard cased lipo's are used everywhere already so it would be a real pity if they don't make it in.

bert digler · #29 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Northy

Trust me Paul knows all there is to know about most things! He is more than capable of doing the job.

Part of the specs to go on the list of approved cells is how many are available. Worry not people.

G

that is more reassuring

ashleyb4 · #30 04-01-2008

Im pretty sure neil and paul are in contact anyway and what ever decition is made im sure its for the best and i think we should all respect it and its not like we are dumping with out current cells i take about 1800 out of my packs in my cr. The only thing that worries me is people will start changing at silly high charge rates to increase performance if the range of4200/4300 cells are found to be illegal.

A

Body Paint · #31 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Northy

They are in a 'sense', but the region can choose to opt out of certain things, like in the NE we ran brushless for a year before you could at the Nats.

The NE currently chooses to run motors and cells to the BRCA homologation lists as it's easier, but that might not always be the case

G

That was a BRCA decission G, Regionals were allowed to run brushless when Nationals were not. I think it was to allow testing and development of brushless technology 1 year ahead of it's introduction into Nationals.

I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see a similar thing happen with cells this year. Allowing regional drivers to compete with last years cells and any oversized cells being weeded out of Nationals straight away. I admit this probably wouldn't be ideal for some but it has to happen sooner or later.

Northy · #32 04-01-2008

Paul said at the meeting that it will only appy to Nationals unless regions choose to enforce it too. I asked the question.

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unluckypixie · #33 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by mark christopher

think its due to dimension changes as to why cells are going to end up illegal?

My understanding was that cells up to 3300 are the smaller original dimension and cell above that are the larger dimension... If it's the dimension that is the problem then my GP3700's might be banned too!

Col · #34 04-01-2008

I simply cannot understand the mentalily of some people! This thread was started by Jimmy on 16th Nov 2007. This was at least 1 month after we all knew there were going to be problems with some cells for next year, so if your current cells were knackered, surely just buying 2 or 3 cheap packs was the only option rather than throwing shed loads of money at 6 or seven packs...
If you can afford to do the national series, then a few packs of cells can't be that hard to find, can they?

terry.sc · #35 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by OldTimer

Hard cased lipos would be a nice addition.

Well if someone proposed them at the AGM and the majority of BRCA members there vote for them then they would be in, that's why we now have lipos in the touring cars in the Pro Stock class.

ashleyb4 · #36 04-01-2008

If some of the cells become illegal this year i may get soem sanyo 3600 lol there good cells.

A

mark christopher · #37 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by terry.sc

For those who have already bought cells for next seasons nationals, if you read your BRCA handbook it states every year the homologation list isn't published until January, so you should never buy cells before then assuming they would be on it. After all until the list is published there is no knowing what new cells will be added.

blunt but exactly right!

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Originally Posted by JCJC

Good thinking, Lipo must be a way forward.

i wish saddles are in hard case soon!

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Originally Posted by Northy

They are in a 'sense', but the region can choose to opt out of certain things, like in the NE we ran brushless for a year before you could at the Nats.

The NE currently chooses to run motors and cells to the BRCA homologation lists as it's easier, but that might not always be the case

G

could regions allow lipo then, there will be a lipo list from the BRCA EB

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Originally Posted by frogger

Absolutely. Hard cased lipo's are used everywhere already so it would be a real pity if they don't make it in.

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Originally Posted by terry.sc

Well if someone proposed them at the AGM and the majority of BRCA members there vote for them then they would be in, that's why we now have lipos in the touring cars in the Pro Stock class.

see above! there in for TC 19 turn, no one proposed em for off road!

PTRU · #38 04-01-2008

Why oh why do you people not look at the rules

Go to the electric board web site look at the battery rules and regs

It tells you there what is what.
You can then check if your cells are legal or not

In any case how many times have your cells been checked?????

If you are in the A final at euro's then I would worry

ashleyb4 · #39 04-01-2008

Its not that the rules on the electric board are 2007 cells the cells have to be reviewed for 2008 and due to the increase ammount of cells failling the brca is reviewing the safety and being more strict wit rules so they are reviewing the cells.

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DCM · #40 04-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Col

I simply cannot understand the mentalily of some people! This thread was started by Jimmy on 16th Nov 2007. This was at least 1 month after we all knew there were going to be problems with some cells for next year, so if your current cells were knackered, surely just buying 2 or 3 cheap packs was the only option rather than throwing shed loads of money at 6 or seven packs...
If you can afford to do the national series, then a few packs of cells can't be that hard to find, can they?

I bought my cells at the beginning of the indoor season as the cells were on the EB List, my concern right at the moment, is that I am unsure whether this new ruling will apply to NEW cells or all on the current list. If that is the case, I bought my cells in good faith of legality and now they might not be.