Euros Info

[Lee]

Im not sure if Jimmy will make this thread sticky but i thought it would be good to have some where to ask questions and chat to others who are going.

Firstly has anyone found any good prices on flights, the best prices i have found is £347 per person flying out on the sat before and flying home on the sunday after.
This was flying out from manchester via helsinki then an internal flight to vaasa.

[Mrs oOple]

Hiya Lee, looks like we've found the same flights as you have, I searched a number of websites trying to find a good deal, some prices came back at 1600+ per person, I think 335 each was the best I found, on expedia.
Looking for car hire now, expedia didn't offer the most competitive car hire rate so I'll continue looking around. It'd be interesting to know what deals other people have found.

[tyreman]

We got our flights through BA for £170 return each, from Heathrow to Helsinki, and the 6 of us are going to hire a minibus (£500 for 8 days) and drive the last 240 miles.

[Mrs oOple]

I looked into flying to Helsinki then driving the rest of the way, but it was going to work out just as expensive and very inconvenient as far as time constraints. It's more expensive to fly from Manchester than Heathrow, but for us to travel to Heathrow would increase the cost just as much anyway. So we're going for the convenience factor and just flying to Vaasa with one stop each way.

[jimmy]

Did I read that there is free internet access at the track? does that mean I don't have to drive about looking for an open wifi?

[Lee]

Correct Jimmy, it should allow you an extra hour a night to re-hydrate:eh?:

[bbq]

Guys and girls!

The distance betwen helsinki and wasa is only like 400-500km and all of you are
probobly all gona rent cars any way so see if skipping the last domestic flight
can save some money.

Another thing might be to see if you can go via stockholm arlanda?
they have direct flights to Wasa there if i am not wrong.

Otherwice there is some space left in my car to the euros :D

/Daniel

[super__dan]

Otherwice there is some space left in my car to the euros :D

/Daniel

I bet it's a quality pimp mobile, just like those shades you've got P.I.M.P. ;) :D

[JussiL]

Remember to check the price from SAS/Blue1. They have a discount for this event, but I don't know how much is it from England. If you are flying to Vaasa, I would recommend to go via Stockholm. I checked the price from Blue1 and Manchester-Vaasa-Manchester was around 280£ without discount. The timetables are not the best possible, but we are sorting it out with SAS at the moment. I think www.amadeus.net (http://www.amadeus.net) is pretty good place to find flight timetables.

The road from Helsinki to Vaasa is pretty good. It's 400 kilometers so it takes around five hours to drive to Vaasa. Only problem is that there are plenty of speed cameras on the way :)

BTW Jimmy, we have a free internet access at the track for you

[Body Paint]

Prices for flights are going up by the week now. We ended up paying about £225 each from Bristol to Stockholm then on to Vassa. Its a long wait in Stockholm but hey!

BTW the SAS/Blue1 discount is a rip off, you have to fly "economy plus" which is about £150 more than economy, you then get your 10% discount.

[bbq]

I bet it's a quality pimp mobile, just like those shades you've got P.I.M.P. ;) :D


We will arive high rolling and pimpin in the Mercedes :D

[JussiL]

BTW the SAS/Blue1 discount is a rip off, you have to fly "economy plus" which is about £150 more than economy, you then get your 10% discount.

Thanks for the info. I think I need to take a call to SAS :)

BBQ: Any news about Nordics?

[bbq]

BBQ: Any news about Nordics?

I not eazy when the swedish federationdont understand that buggy
is geting big. . . . . .
They say we can have a unofficial nordics.. .. . . idont know?
What do you think??
And i have had some other shit to do all the time. . . .
And my mom just suddenly past away last week so everting is on hold for the
moment. We have a family business so everting is lithle upside down.

I will get back to you
send me a e-mail and we can talk.

/Daniel

[JussiL]

I'm sorry to hear about your mother Bbq. I will send you email as soon as I have some time.

BTW the SAS/Blue1 discount is a rip off, you have to fly "economy plus" which is about £150 more than economy, you then get your 10% discount.

I got reply from SAS and they said that the discount should be 15% if you fly economy plus and with regular economy the discount should be 10%. If you have some problems, send me email and I will take care of it ([email protected])

[Body Paint]

Thank you JussiL :)

I will call SAS on Saturday and let you know what they say

[Lee]

Has everyone booked flights yet?

I had another browse before and found finnair flying from amsterdam to vaasa via helsinki was good (£250 pp) if you flew out the fri and came home on the monday morning;)

[jimmy]

Well this year it looks like we're all going to be in 'official' tshirts- I'm sure I can adapt mine to say Jimmy on there somewhere though.:)

What's the link to the track website? I can't remember it

[bbq]

http://www.wasacross.com/index.php?id=5

[bbq]

Some Pictures from the race in Vasa this past weekend

http://www.rc-kim.com/vaasa/indeksi.htm
http://mikak.1g.fi/kuvat/Maastosarja+2%2C+Vaasa+9.6+La/
http://mikak.1g.fi/kuvat/Maastosarja+2%2C+Vaasa+10.6+Su/
http://copter.threewee.com/ripak/Kuvat/Maastosarja2_2007-Vaasa/

[jimmy]

Awesome - thanks mate.
It should be a great one, free wifi internet access! can't beat that.

[bbq]

Live up date "track side" :D

[jimmy]

Last time we went to the Euros (austria) we wen't even allowed a magazine on the plane. So - how do you fly with the racing gear? I don't take much, but obviously charger, cells, 2 cars, controller and a few spares, tools and tyres.
Are they a bit funny with cells and odd looking electric bits in your checked baggage?

[Body Paint]

I've been having the same worries Jim.

It seems as though everything needs to go in the hold, which bothers me a lot. I'll be taking nearly £2000 worth of cars alone :o

[PaulRotheram]

can you not dismantle them to avoid breakages? like main components.. shock towers.. shocks.. etc

[bbq]

when you go to "check in" tell them that you got sporting goods and tools
in you bags and that is usualy all they need.

Last year going to Austria i had my transmitter and bateries with me on the plane
i just explained what they were when they X-rayed the stuff.
no problems at all :D

[Lee]

When i went to the LRP race a few years ago they pulled us all to obe side and went through everything on the UK side, they didnt like the look of the pro trak charger with a keypad on the front and a digi display:D but they were fine and even let motor spray and stuff pass through.

On the german side when we were coming back they didnt even look at our stuff or xray it we were running that late but mr drescher still managed to get a £45 charge for excess baggage:D

[KevLee]

Hi

Can anyone tell me whether the Bus service is going to be a reliable way to get around for the week with the obvious load of equipment we'll be carrying backwards and forwards? I understand that it runs from 6 am to 9pm but do you know how often?

I ask because i'm flying to Helsinki and planning on driving up to Vaasa, but wondered whether it would be worth just renting the car for one day to get me to Vaasa Airport. Then i could catch the bus to the hotel and use it for the rest of the week and rent another car on the sunday to get me back to Helsinki.

Cheers

[Lee]

Kev,

I looked into it because im doing the same, you can get a car fiesta size for about £180 for the 8 days if i remember rightly.

Not super cheap but it does mean you have some freedom:D

[bbq]

Booked hotel today and it aint cheep to go alone to a event like this =)
What hotel have you guys and girl got?
I booked at the official euros hotel.

I owe some ones dad a beer from last year :D

[Lee]

I think were in that one too our rep from the uk has booked ours;)

How much is it by the way i might bring a tent:D

[tyreman]

It's 72 euros a night or about £50

[jimmy]

Cool that you are in the same place dude, that hotel looks to be a good one! disco! haha


Anyone have any suggestions as to what they'd like to see in my oOple report? or particular photos they'd like to see?

We were thinking of doing the usual interview madness - maybe some more 'unusual ones' rather than the usual big boys.
We were thinking of handing out some spec sheets to get a flavour of what people are using also... but feel free to suggest anything else.

[bbq]

It's 72 euros a night or about £50
it say 72 euro on the web page but it is 78 euro.

[bbq]

Cool that you are in the same place dude, that hotel looks to be a good one! disco! haha


Anyone have any suggestions as to what they'd like to see in my oOple report? or particular photos they'd like to see?

We were thinking of doing the usual interview madness - maybe some more 'unusual ones' rather than the usual big boys.
We were thinking of handing out some spec sheets to get a flavour of what people are using also... but feel free to suggest anything else.

That sounds awsome.
Disco and bar can become a baaaad combination
I have to bring my boogie shoes with me then :D

The intreviews are wery fun to read but i often want to se more pit action and
what all the diffrent peopel have under the body of the car.
And not to forget all the strange home made stuff that pops up at a event
like this hehehe. . .
Like the S.P.O.R.T. 2006 Raptor by Arne Schmiedeberg from Germany
that car was cool

[Lee]

I want to see who the top unsponsored driver is:o

[Mrs oOple]

Top unsponsored driver, that's a good idea. Need a researcher !

[jimmy]

that's you darling! haha
I remember back in 2003 when I had some more comprehensive webstats that photos inside cars are by far the most popular - I just usually forget to take them, but will do mi best!

[bbq]

I remember back in 2003 when I had some more comprehensive webstats that photos inside cars are by far the most popular - I just usually forget to take them, but will do mi best!

I will remind you hehe . . . . .

[bbq]

this is how i get ready for the Euros

[emzy]

Uh oh... what have you done?!

[bbq]

Uh oh... what have you done?!

Got mad at some one who was talking bad about my dead mother
so instead of hiting that person i hit the wall and broke the nuckle on
my pinky finger (spelling??)

Facts of life
When the mind is weak the body suffers :D
2½ more weeks with the cast :(

[jimmy]

I heard that Neil and Bradders went over the other week to finland for some private practice before the Euros, some testing new bits or just 'fancied a practice', who knows.:confused:

[PaulRotheram]

...B5?

;)

[Lee]

Oooooohhh!

Its been a few years now too since the B4 was released, im sure there would of been spyshots though.

Who is AE`s top driver (worldwide) mr cragg must be up there:rolleyes:

[Chris Doughty]

being world champion helps your ratings as 'top driver' :rolleyes:

can't rule out Maifield and RCav too

[jimmy]

I'm sure if there was anything new they'd hide it from me anyway :D

Should be plenty of cool new things to take photos of though! I can't wait to see hupos Tamiya

[Ketil Pettersen]

I was in Finland at the "warm-up" race a week after some of the brits were there to practise. From my experience I don't think it was a waste of time. The track was a bit more tricky than the pictures show, at least I think so. As far as I know the track surface has been somewhat of a challenge. Originally it held up very well, but was very dusty. With some chemical assistance, the dust issue was almost gone, but the surface became very "rutted" at some places. I actually hope that the track will be bumpy, as we got our cars to work well at the race :cool:

bbq: can you msn me about some hotel "affairs"? If you are going by your self, it's possible that you can share a room with a Norwegian fellow. If it's not to "icky" ;) Maybe we can save some money and be more.... social... hehe

[footey]

does anybody know where its going to be held next year :)

[jimmy]

VERY IMPORTANT :- East Power 4200 cells. (Demon FIRECRACKERS)
EFRA have decided in the last few days that the version of this cell fitted with
the BLACK fibre disc around the positive button is not allowed. The cell that
was homologated has a RED disc and only RED disc versions will be allowed.


I just bought some of these to take to the Euros - I will have to check which they are - otherwise I'm a bit stuffed.:(

[PaulRotheram]

can anyone tell me why the one with a black disc is not allowed? if its just because of the color then its abit pathetic. I've not heard of any difference in the cells..

anyone?

[_sleigh_]

The way I understand it, the coloured disc is used to identify a slight difference in the cell while in the manufacturing process. Can't remember which way round this is, but one is High Voltage and the other is High Capacity.

And as the "red disc" version was submitted for homologation, it only that type that can be used within EFRA meetings

[jimmy]

yeah mine are illegal
I guess there's less to carry then - one pack in each car and nothing else! :D

[jarkkom]

It's funny how EFRA is trying to kill this sport every way they can. First 1/12th scale and now this.

[_sleigh_]

jarkkom... It's not EFRA's fault, if the manufacturer had sent both samples for homologation in time, then there would never have been a problem. Rules are rules and other manufacturers manage to do things correctly.

Paul.... I think the BLACK disc version has been about in the UK for a while now. But again the RED disc version was the one originally sent to the BRCA EB for sampling.

[jimmy]

is there actually a difference or is it that they ran out of red discs ? :o

[_sleigh_]

Look 5 posts up :rolleyes: :D

[PaulRotheram]

quite dissopointing like, I had a similar problem for the indoor finals.. but for a decision to happen so close to the euros is a real shame. I'd of thought they would have to had made decisions like this in good time for people to prepare them selfs.

[jimmy]

I see

http://www.kimihiko-yano.net/Product/shopping_cart/image/EP4200UV/1.jpg

time to bust out the airbrush and mix some teracotta paint up.

[_sleigh_]

I take it from your picture, that UC = Capacity and UV = Voltage., hense they are different cells internally.

[jimmy]

What happened to 4200 mah then? is it or isn't it?!? crazy bastards.

[losixxx]

the EB posted on brca site that the black tab cells are BRCA legal from the time of the amendment in june, seems strange why efra are saying you can't use them, afterall isnt it the same person who checks them?

[_sleigh_]

That number means nothing.. Don't the GP's have 4300 on the side and in small writing have "typcially 4100mAh" (not sure if it's GP, but one cell does)

[_sleigh_]

the EB posted on brca site that the black tab cells are BRCA legal from the time of the amendment in june, seems strange why efra are saying you can't use them, afterall isnt it the same person who checks them?

BRCA and EFRA are different styles of organisation. EFRA have associated members that are manufacturers. http://www.efra.se/associate_members.html

[mw02veg]

That does seem strange as they are ok for the worlds

http://www.ifmar.org/pdf/ifmar_battery_list_2007.pdf

total confusion.

Also IFMAR requests " prepare one copy of the commerical documents showing that 50,000 cells are available AND the addresses of the shops which sell the batteries."

http://www.ifmar.org/pdf/electric/ifmar_battery_homologform_07.pdf

are there any GP 4600 in the uk at a model shop for sale ? :wtf:

[MattW]

The EFRA list as origionally issued only ever said red cap was legal. As did BRCA, but BRCA then decided to allow both. EFRA didn't.

The GP 46 is a strange one. I haven't seen any in the UK, but i know they are for sale in main land europe. Defenetly available in Finland actually!!!

[losixxx]

well hear tonight over 150 flights from heathrow either cancelled or delayed hope all you flying don't have any holdups. good luck to all

[jimmy]

well we ended up in the bar last night so I didn't get chance to stick any photos up from yesterday the airport / track / city (hotel) are all really close together which is cool. Free internet in the hotel too, yay.

[woOdy]

well we ended up in the bar last night so I didn't get chance to stick any photos up from yesterday the airport / track / city (hotel) are all really close together which is cool. Free internet in the hotel too, yay.

So what you doing now?

[jimmy]

It's mid day and I just woke up :eh?: we have to move out of our room - in fact we all do, since they didn't have the proper rooms available as we are all a day earlier than we should be (flights changed)

Then we're gonna have a look around vaasa I think. There's not much point going to the track again since it's just a building site - they are getting everything ready still, looks like a heck of a lot of work. They have three big plasma screens, two for the 'circus tent' pitting area and one for outside on the wall I think. The rostrum is fantastic, it's massive.

The track was wet yesterday and it's predicted to rain ALL week next week. Today it's really nice though.

I got a few photos so I'll stick those up later.

[ashleyb4]

Hello jimmy and vicky :) hope you have a nice time.

A

[MikaM]

We MIGHT get lucky with weather in Vaasa. Currently forecast shows cloudy but no rain... Lets hope it stays like that. Mudwrestiling with buggies is definately not my thing...

Here is link for good forecast page:
http://www.weather.fi/Suomi/tasmasaa/Vaasa

I think i need to pack more clothes before i leave. Looks quite cold even for finnish summer.

[jimmy]

I really hope it's nice - its a lovely day today.

[_sleigh_]

Nice to see you've pulled your finger out and posted some pics :D

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2007/

[Southwell]

Are there any live results going to happen?

[k£v!n]

Nice read Jimmy, the track looks great

[ashleyb4]

I went on one of those planes jimmy there ace it was the first plane i ever went on. And it was quiet scary to look out the window and find ourselves plowing down the run way with only one propellor turning. But it was a nice flight.

A

[PaulRotheram]

It looks a nice place from the pictures, hope ya's havin a good time. Don't forget some night time photos of the crazy britts.

[_sleigh_]

Are there any live results going to happen?

Official web-site should have something up soon.

http://www.wasacross.com/

[niggs98]

lmao at the bottom right pic and caption, lets see if dc can beat last years record of only bein at the hotel for 4 hours before gettin nicked :):(:S

[woOdy]

We are watching TV and it has just said that on 27/07/07 is national sleepy head day in Finland and the last person to wake up in the house gets thrown in the nearest lake or sea.

[GRIFF55]

That was just a question on a quiz show on bbc1!! (is there such a thing as sleepy head day?) How wierd is that

[GRIFF55]

Sorry Stu, are you in Finland:wtf:

[woOdy]

Just something I dont under stand? Dont you have to do the Nats to go to the Euros? or not.

[millzy]

Guess not

[Lee]

The brca gets allocated x amount of spaces (around 30) the top drivers get the chance to take up these places if they decline then its open to those who want to go, National drivers get priority.;)

[GRIFF55]

hows it going over there??

[Chequered Flag Racing]

webcam appears to be working :)

how to details here (http://www.wasacross.com/index.php?id=59)

[Danny McGee]

More importantly that all the previous information. Do we know who is quick yet? Obviously not specifically but just in general.

[LEGEND]

It is nice to see that Jimmy is updating each day to keep us all, well updated.:cool:
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2007/

[Northy]

Cragg was quickest today (only count you 2 fastest laps), but he was 1/2 second faster than Pidge in second I heard ;)

G

[Jonathan]

Loving the coverage Jimmy ;)

[jimmy]

Just for you Jonathan

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2007/1/NO5E9854.jpg


The track is great and I'm pretty happy with the losi CR. It doesn't have enough steering but it's safe to drive. Some of the guys in my heat have become faster as the day wore on and I've gone from being the quickest to about 4th fastest - hope that doesn't continue to decline! :)

[zaquiz]

Jimmy, ask Alberto Garcia (spain) (or Hupo) for a good setup for ur CR. Alberto was there for training not too long ago, and will probably have a fast car.

[zaquiz]

By the wat, GREAT coverage! Keep upp the good wrk!!!

[jimmy]

Thanks for the tip - I will see if we can interview Alberto also - we interviewed Hupo today (will put it up tomorrow) - the setups I've seen on various xxxcr's at the meeting have been quite different. Ranging from soft to fairly hard like the setup I have on.

[zaquiz]

Yes, thats normally what happens with Losi folks. Different setups for different drivers, compared to Asso, where normally similar setups works for all drivers and tracks...

[GRIFF55]

I like the report on this Jimmy, that hybrid car looks nice too!!
Once again, cracking photo's

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Jimmy,

any more pix and detail on the 2wd car (http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2007/1/tamiya.jpg) ?

Looking @ the right side motor plate the slot for the motor screw looks to be futher back than the on the left allowing the motor to be mounted futher to the rear.

Can they run the motor/battery setup be run on opposite sides?

[OldTimer]

Just for you Jonathan

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2007/1/NO5E9854.jpg




Thanks Jimmy ;) car looks great, was a bit mad to get the cars built in time, got home 1.00am Saturday morning after droping them off lol.

[Christer Rasmussen]

All results are online as the heates finish
http://www.wasacross.com/results/?M=A

[Chequered Flag Racing]

webcam appears to be working :)

how to details here (http://www.wasacross.com/index.php?id=59)

don't forget the webcam folks :)

looks as though it doesn't pan/sweep though :(

[jimmy]

No more car photos - I was ordered off the track, bollocks if you ask me.

[bigred5765]

poor jimmy doomed to the land of the telly photo Len's,
get pics of the offending people and out them, the rotter's,
spoiling us normal peoples coverage how very dare they

[Bathy]

No more car photos - I was ordered off the track, bollocks if you ask me.

You want me to 'rant' on your behalf Jimmy?

Oh and go stand at the back of the track giving it the middle finger, I'll 'print screen' for yah from the webcam ;)

Edit... What's this for then? You'd think it would allow for 'track shots' (am I ranting ok?)

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2007/1/OOP_9833.jpg

[jimmy]

In so many words they told me to shove the media pass up my arse. :eh?:


Oh well - I din't come to take photos, but I wouldn't of come if I knew I couldn't, if that makes sense. Hope the car goes ok now otherwise theres nowt left! :D The track is a bit wet still so the tyres aren't really gripping. Someone went out on schumachers (the altername tyre) and they were so toss that they stopped after one corner.

When I did second practice I purposely went slow so I could start at the back - I went and broke it anyway though so hey. Dave "beer" Church is in my heat so I think I can take him. :)

[millzy]

see anf last your you ripped that guy with the huge camera that needed a stand as it was so big.....maybe you could ring him and take realy colse up pics of the cars on track from your pit table??

get some spy shot jimmy , and night life ones to make up for the pass up the ass photos you cant take

[ashleyb4]

Thats a load of shit!!! Who has ordered you off the track erfa or a club member???

A

[millzy]

sit down E-THUG it would have been a track officual i guess

[ashleyb4]

I hope you started on him!!! Cant you sit on the edge of the track and take some pictures i know they wont be that good but its still pictures.

A

[millzy]

like you would have done?

[GRIFF55]

any body got sound on vid link?

[Chris Doughty]

go on CREE!!!!

http://www.wasacross.com/results/Practice_Round8_Best_Laptimes.pdf

[Elliott Hopkins]

Everyone should just go home and leave the Brits to it.

[Chris Doughty]

but then it would cost a lot of money for a UK National.

I think there will be 4 non brits in the A 2WD and maybe 4 again in 4WD

[jimmy]

Ash is right, I went out to chill over my upset that I can't take photos. I came back in time for my qualifier and I see photographers all over the track - what a load of ARSE. No explanation, I even asked Paul and he said the EFRA guy agreed with the organisers descision.. But I guess it's now allowed - but in the process they made me miss all the sun and pretty much killed my enthusiasm to do a race report today.

[Chris Doughty]

Cree puts in a good round1 it seems...

[jim76]

anyone know how to get the webcam working? won't open in a normal window (no picture) and in winamp it just says connecting to host and nothing....

ta

[Northy]

Can't get video to work :(

[Northy]

Cree puts in a good round1 it seems...

And Bradders ;)

[Nick Goodall]

Cree puts in a good round1 it seems...

Definitely, and Bradders only 2 seconds behind! Good start lads, Cree loves the Euro's :D

[ashleyb4]

Yup indead. It would be nice to see some diffrent people in the A or possibly leading the A as we get used to the same names all the time so yea get the brisitch lads in there.

A

[Nick Goodall]

Get in Lee, good lad ;-) Looks like Cree is still 2nd, pinish 3rd?

[Chris Doughty]

you beat me to it Nick!

[Nick Goodall]

Is there not a live race thing like last year where they had it lap by lap?

[Chris Doughty]

I don't know, I am just F5'in the basic apache page

[Chris Doughty]

wow, Cragg by a long way!

Cree stays in good shape though. EuroCree!

[Nick Goodall]

So Cragg, Honigl, Martin, Cree and Pinish?

[Nick Goodall]

So Cragg, Honigl, Martin, Cree and Pinish?

I know Lee will be proud that he had the quickest lap though - 25.365 and it was his first!

[Jonathan]

Ash is right, I went out to chill over my upset that I can't take photos. I came back in time for my qualifier and I see photographers all over the track - what a load of ARSE. No explanation, I even asked Paul and he said the EFRA guy agreed with the organisers descision.. But I guess it's now allowed - but in the process they made me miss all the sun and pretty much killed my enthusiasm to do a race report today.

What a load of arse, but dont let the bastards get you down, chin up.

[Northy]

Jimmy, remember:

You da man! :D :D

[OldTimer]

Make sure you use IE rather than firefox for the the webcam, had it running all morning without any problems, also i just used the link and did the active x install.

[ashleyb4]

Do they have breaks at the euro's cus acording to my camera there is knowone on the track


A

[Northy]

Got it working now, is there supposed to be sound? :confused:

G

[ashleyb4]

I aint got sound

[Christer Rasmussen]

Yes there is a breake from 14:35 to qualification round 2 that will start 15:00

I can see that denmark is 1 hour behind that, so I think you are 2 hours behind.

You can see the time table http://www.wasacross.com/fileadmin/Race_Guide_2.pdf at page 24.

[millzy]

where are you guys seeing the results all i can see is heat 9

[OldTimer]

http://www.wasacross.com/results/?M=A

[emzy]

I can't open PDFs at work :(

I could do the live results thing last year... pssh.

[SHY]

I can't get the webcam to work either (just black). Can anyone confirm that is does work right now?

Jimmy, the finnish are a very special kind of people. Try for instance to find a podium finish picture with anyone smiling in Finland! (Raikkonen and Häkkinen are not the only finnish never smiling) In my opinion it must be the most boring country in the world as well :yawn: ... They probably have no idea that you make the best site in the world for RC cars... Don't let'em bring you down!!! ;)

[stefke]

No sorted list of Qualifier 1 ? :(

[losixxx]

webcam working fine for me most of the day, just try and refresh

[ashleyb4]

are we 2 hours behind finland if so this is jimmy on now.

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[millzy]

you know they rotate it dont you mate

[losixxx]

sleighs just raced, and roundy has just put car down so could be pidge's heat?

[ashleyb4]

IM looking at the timetable and it says jimmy is on at 16.07 and it is now just after that so this heat will be finished soon as its 14.13 here meaning 16.13 there.

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[millzy]

bah cant see web cam

where has roundy been hiding?


IM looking at the timetable and it says jimmy is on at 16.07 and it is now just after that so this heat will be finished soon as its 14.13 here meaning 16.13 there.

A

well hes not on , heat 10 just finished and as round 2 started with heat 4 id say jimmys not on for a whiel mate

[ashleyb4]

Im confused.

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[Chris Doughty]

Cree spanks in another one.... that might be his A main in the bag??

[millzy]

question doughty, if dresh is there, will cree give him his car back and run his own??

[ashleyb4]

Figured now the next heat to start will be ellis staford and neil cragg and simon moss i think.

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[Chris Doughty]

its just Craigs body, its Cree's car...

just to throw rumour out there... will Craig not be running the B44?? :p

[Chris Doughty]

Cree looking in great shape.... just Lee in front of him... 1 to go...

I predict he will have another 4th at the end of this round

[ashleyb4]

Where are all you lot viewing this is there like a live link up like at the cactus classic???

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[millzy]

ah ok i wasnt 100% on the shell car thing

arnt the bj4 AE team all ment to be switching to the b44??

Pidgeoooooooooooooooooo go on son get a 1..sorry :):)

[Nick Goodall]

Check out Lee's time, it's only the tiniest bit slower then his first round!!

I'd say it's already looking like Neil TQ, Hupo 2nd and Lee 3rd........ wasn't it similar to that last year??

[Chris Doughty]

im just sitting on the results page refreshing every 8 minutes

[millzy]

no last year it was in huppos back garden remeber and he won cragg and numan where 2 n 3rd with the next losi in 1,078 place back in a welsh regional

[ashleyb4]

Im doing that but the newest result i have is phil sleigh and tony trumans heat:wtf: sleigh seems to be going well to im sure he will be in the B

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[Chris Doughty]

good skills from Cragg!

looks like Cree 4th again... :D

[Chris Doughty]

heat '10' '11' and '12' begin with a '1' so they are at the 'top' of the round2 results in 'alpha numeric' order :p

[millzy]

so the b5s are doing well then( shit ...where's delete :):) ) nice to see lee up there and with the weaker car in the nats standings

[bubble]

I can't get the webcam to work either (just black). Can anyone confirm that is does work right now?

Jimmy, the finnish are a very special kind of people. Try for instance to find a podium finish picture with anyone smiling in Finland! (Raikkonen and Häkkinen are not the only finnish never smiling) In my opinion it must be the most boring country in the world as well :yawn: ... They probably have no idea that you make the best site in the world for RC cars... Don't let'em bring you down!!! ;)

Yea I would be pissed of too if I was from Norway.

[ashleyb4]

Thanks chris found it now.

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[ashleyb4]

so the b5s are doing well then( shit ...where's delete :):) ) nice to see lee up there and with the weaker car in the nats standings

Whats this B5????????????

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[Nick Goodall]

Looks like Lee got 2nd in that round too then..... Neil with two x 1st and Lee with a 2nd and 3rd is looking good. Cree must have two top 4's??

[ashleyb4]

is there a b5 on the way please tell me because im thinking of buying a new b4 and i dont want to buy one and find out a new car is on the way.

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[Chris Doughty]

Looks like Lee got 2nd in that round too then..... Neil with two x 1st and Lee with a 2nd and 3rd is looking good. Cree must have two top 4's??

Indeed, I believe Euros is 2/5 so thats at least 3 brits secured in the main. good skills guys!

[Christer Rasmussen]

Sort the result page by "Last Modified" then you will have the newest result last, on the list.

Do they run fastes time of day or Round by Round?

Why didn't Craig Drescher start in round 2? Does he have problem with the Novak brushless as always?

[millzy]

right ash jimmy has just finished round2 :)

there runnig b4s mate there would have been pics if they where runnig the b5's it was a joke mate

[CDS MODELS]

right ash jimmy has just finished round2 :)

there runnig b4s mate there would have been pics if they where runnig the b5's it was a joke mate

oh chris we could have kept him going for day's on that:D :D ;)

[millzy]

i know i know, but i 20minds is enought for him to star googling "b5" and going on to rc10 look for it and pming doughty for info on

[Chris Doughty]

they run round bu round, I belive its 2/5 to count... I think its only worlds where its 3/5

[Chris Doughty]

you would not see a B5 at the event, we are not allowed to run them in public yet...

they might be running the new shock internals though

[trekkerkk]

roflol:)

trekkker

[Nick Goodall]

Chris, are they running the upside down chassis though with reversed anti-squat?

[millzy]

and the new bulkhead with 22 27 and 32 deg kick up options

[Nick Goodall]

and the new bulkhead with 22 27 and 32 deg kick up options

I thought the new one had a 45 deg option too??

[trekkerkk]

no there leaving that for the b6

[millzy]

no no nick its 45.0345 DEG that flips over for -5 kick down as AE are calling it, they have it on the b44 and the new 18Bnitrolipo

[losixxx]

you nasty buggers:D

[Chrislong]

I hear the B5 will have egg shaped wheels so the car remains smooth over bumpy sections. ;)

[k£v!n]

is anyone else having problems with the live cam, its telling me the sever is full :mad:

[JCJC]

is anyone else having problems with the live cam, its telling me the sever is full :mad:

We are getting the same:(

[ashleyb4]

Leave me alone i was getting really exsited then :(

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[jim76]

7 out of the top 10 are brits! magic

[millzy]

dude the b4 is still wining and kicking arss, even IF they did bring one out your b4 would still handle really well.

saying that the drawings ive sene for the vertical camber link turnbuckles look impressive

[ashleyb4]

Yup the best car in the world.

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[millzy]

bk to the euros

harsh but who's got the best name at the euros.

heat 8 Sami Salmela from FIN dose it for me

[ashleyb4]

Thats harsh millzy i supose they do it to us i bet they find chris mills bloody hilerious.

Erik Muff haha MUFF!!!!!

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[millzy]

Thats harsh millzy i supose they do it to us i bet they find chris mills bloody hilerious.

Erik Muff haha MUFF!!!!!

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I think as its EFRA rules i wolud be down as Christopher mills, i was going to ask PW if could enter as Millzy.

and Muff has been done every year we do this....pic another

[ashleyb4]

Christoffer Löf

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA love the way they spell christopher christoffer!!! :D

I feel really harsh now as they could come on here and read this and what would they think!!!

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[millzy]

deleted

[ashleyb4]

Arent i popular

[Wraggy]

they would think your a tw@ from england.....like we do
:D :D :D :D Priceless

[ashleyb4]

FAO Mr oOple

jimmy have you been allowed back on the track yet to take pics???????

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[k£v!n]

Yeah I hope youve been back on the track taking pic's, it wont be the same otherwise :(

[millzy]

well thats neil tq then 3 out of 3, time to go and hit the hotel bar

[k£v!n]

Ive now got the live vidio but with no sound! Just to let you guys know it woks on winamp!

[Southwell]

It works just on internet explorer ;)

[Chris Doughty]

well thats neil tq then 3 out of 3, time to go and hit the hotel bar

its 2/5 to count so its still possible for him to be beat... but he certainly had a good day at the office!

Cree with a strong showing...

LRP team-mate Tricky pulling a nice 4th out of the bag in round3! - one more tomorrow and your good!

[OldTimer]

Its interesting to see that jimmys report page now has a link on the official euros webiste, shame they won't let him take any photos :(

They may have a great track and facilities just a shame the rest of the world cannot see them :eh?: moan over.

[Nick Goodall]

Hopefully Neil's wrapped it up, can't imagine the track will really get quicker for tomorrow? Unless it's really warm tonight and loads of rubber has gone down??

I'd expect it to be a bit damp first thing tomorrow, and if so the track will probably cut up a tad?

[jarkkom]

bk to the euros

harsh but who's got the best name at the euros.

heat 8 Sami Salmela from FIN dose it for me

Haha, whats so funny about it? I'll pass this on to him.. :D

[OldTimer]

Euros blog in french http://euro2007off.blogspot.com/ and google translated version into english http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Feuro2007off.blogspot.com% 2F&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

[jimmy]

I think Storey is a pretty stupid name:o

My last qualifier I got shock oil in my eye and couldnt see properly - around 4 minutes mark in the qualifier my eye was watering and it put me off a bit.. I am now running close to Hupos setup and it's a hell of a lot better than it was earlier today. the track has changed a lot (wet now and less grip) so yesterday my car felt great and today crap.

[ashleyb4]

I hope they let you back on the track tommorow i want to see some more action shots:( :( :(

Those jumps + fast cars + jimmy with camera = ace pictures

A:(

[Yardeeee]

Is anyone able to post the overnight top 10? I've seen all the individual round results, but was wondering if anyone could show us the overall with the 2 best scores combined please?

Looking at the round results, obviously Neil has 2 1's counting, Pidge has a 2 and a 3, Cree has a pair of 4's, think Barton has a 7 and 5, and Moss has a pair of 8's, but then you have Tricky with a 4, and Dresch with a 6 so was just wondering where this left people sitting overnight?

Best of luck for finals day guys!

Cheers,
Yardy :cool:

[bert digler]

Is anyone able to post the overnight top 10? I've seen all the individual round results, but was wondering if anyone could show us the overall with the 2 best scores combined please?

Looking at the round results, obviously Neil has 2 1's counting, Pidge has a 2 and a 3, Cree has a pair of 4's, think Barton has a 7 and 5, and Moss has a pair of 8's, but then you have Tricky with a 4, and Dresch with a 6 so was just wondering where this left people sitting overnight?

Best of luck for finals day guys!

Cheers,
Yardy :cool:

why ay ya there tomas:o

[Yardeeee]

logistics of it all really. Lots of efforts and costs, and just didn't really fancy it this time. Always next year...

Yardy

[bert digler]

logistics of it all really. Lots of efforts and costs, and just didn't really fancy it this time. Always next year...

Yardy

i'll give some tips u can win it then:D

[MattW]

Is anyone able to post the overnight top 10? I've seen all the individual round results, but was wondering if anyone could show us the overall with the 2 best scores combined please?




I think i can do better than that.:D :cool:

Overall after round 3 (http://www.wasacross.com/results/Qualification_Round3.pdf)

[Chrislong]

I seen Nesse!

[Chequered Flag Racing]

Richard Isherwood usually gets top Vet award in the NE regionals, can he do it in the Euro's :p

[Chrislong]

Richard Isherwood usually gets top Vet award in the NE regionals, can he do it in the Euro's :p

I didn't realise they catagorised profession! :D

[Swiss]

Has anyone managed to get sound yet?

[stefke]

I am now running close to Hupos setup and it's a hell of a lot better than it was earlier today.

I'm always interested in getting the setups for your cars from these euro's. I'm also running a CR and a TRF501X and we have a national coming up on a very similar track.

[SHY]

No sound...

For those who have problems seeing anything: try it at home. Seems like the firewall at work won't let the stream through.

Doughty, why aren't you at the Euros?

[millzy]

Haha, whats so funny about it? I'll pass this on to him.. :D

if you could that would be ace

[Nick Goodall]

I reckon Craig's just gone 4th in that round as he just beat Pinish's time so that would give him 10 points with a 4 and 6? That should be enough as the same people have gone quick in every round??

5 out of 5 for Neil too? Awesome stuff, pure domination ;-)

How many B4's in the top 10 then?? I make it 9/10?

[Christer Rasmussen]

If Ellis is in the A I'll call it 8/10.
Hupo with Losi and Ellis with X-6

[millzy]

nice to see lee runnig consistent times
do we know what the weather is like out there today?

[GRIFF55]

Looking at the live cam, it looks dry at least:confused:

[Wraggy]

nice to see lee runnig consistent times
do we know what the weather is like out there today?
ive text him and told him to pull his finger out in the finals !! :D :D
his fastest lap times are on a par with Cragg so with some luck on his side you never know..;)

[millzy]

yeah if he can q3rd and stay in the leading pack he could BUSTAMOVE on them :)

i txt him the other night....but it was to aks a question and not realy about his driving..but then i am selfish

[millzy]

Top ten

Name:
1:Neil Cragg
2:Hubert Honigl
3:Lee Martin
4:Peter Pinisch
5:Paul Bradby
6:Richard Cree
7:Craig Drescher
8:Richard Barton
9:Ellis Stafford
10:Jörn Neumann

BQ :Marc Rheinard

[jimmy]

Added a little write up of today with the A main practice

[k£v!n]

Nice one Jimmy, Keep up the great work!

[Wraggy]

Added a little write up of today with the A main practice

bet Lee wished it was the A 1st leg with that result !!! :eh?:

[LEGEND]

There seems to be a bit of action going on, on the track with marshalls and cars beginning to line up

[Wraggy]

There seems to be a bit of action going on, on the track with marshalls and cars beginning to line up

:( :( i cant get video link up as im at work !!!!! ...

[LEGEND]

It looks as though a final has started and it looks as though it is ver close as all of hte drivers are within the length of the back straight.

[OldTimer]

Added a little write up of today with the A main practice

Good to see that it looks like they have let you back trackside to get some photos ;)

[SHY]

Nice report! How about a small video clip of one lap?

Are the fast guys running 5 or 6 cells?

[_JP_]

great report Jim, wish I was there but next bext thing is photos and reading :)

Looks like Pidge is on the redbull today :) it gives you wings!!

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2007/2/OOP_0548.jpg

[Nick Goodall]

See that Neil won Leg 1, Hupo 2nd and Peter 3rd? Bradders 4th and Lee 5th

[Bathy]

From what I can make out, Neil has a nice lead and Lee is in 2nd! But it's not easy viewing.

Edit - From watching the webcam I think Neil won that 2nd leg with Lee in 2nd... That would make Neil the 2wd Euro champ huh, nice work.

[millzy]

Come on lee, get another 2nd in leg 3

Neil wins again :) freeking stamped his name on it this year . must be making up for huppos home win last year

[Wraggy]

Cragg sews up the title !!!!
come on Lee make it 1-2 UK . !!!

[jimmy]

Neil is the victor. Lee Martin had the fastest laps of the week in that leg and looked like he could take it from Neil until he rolled.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2007/3/neilisace.jpg

[millzy]

long as peter pinisch dosnt task a 1 lee can sit in 3rd behind him and get 2nd

oh wait huppo has a 2

[Chrislong]

Excellent, well done Neil!!!!

Where can I see the results? Anyone know how Ellis did?

[millzy]

10th with a 10 and a 9

[Wraggy]

GET IN !!!!!!!!!!! :) :)

Pidge gets 2nd overall .. well done dude ...;)
Team mamba !!!!

[b4rs]

Congrats to Neil and lee on staying in the top ten, and neil always amazes me, even thouh i dont know him, how he wins so many races. he sets a really good example and its great to have him part of this forum.

[JCJC]

Excellent, well done Neil!!!!

Where can I see the results? Anyone know how Ellis did?

Here:http://www.wasacross.com/results/

[millzy]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAA BOOOOOOOOOOOOIII

Well done lee, nice one mate very pleased for you

[Nick Goodall]

The boy done good - will be well pleased with that i'm sure, not been a British 1-2 on Foreign soil for a while has there? Nice last leg for Craig too!

[ashleyb4]

Well done to all the british lads who went and did an ace job oer the last few days remeber to do the same tomorow and for the rest of the week.

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[Chrislong]

Also... well done to Tricky for winning the B, im sure he wishes it was the A but a good result still. Well done to Ben Riley for also making the B final.

Looking at the positions, many of the Brits have done ace. Well done to those in the C final too, John Spencer qualified well - wonder why he dnf'd the final?

[samboneecanada]

any news about video footage? is this taking place as we speak?

ciao