A Double and Three Halves - Page 4

b4pete · #61 27-11-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbkRob

2009 handbook (printed) page 15, rile 10, paragraph 3.
"It is not allowed to use any form of active telemetary, which in the opinion of the event officials or stewards, is judged to give a competitor an advantage during a race. Therefore, it is not allowed for any radio/wireless signals to be transmitted from the car to an external source during a race, that is judged by the officials to give the driver a competitive advantage during that particular race.

(not sure I'm 100% agreed on the Therefore but that is another issue AND NOT FOR THIS THREAD!)

So...............................

You can't find out how much juice is still in the tank, or indeed monitor voltage, if that is judged to be a competitive advantage.

BUT................................

Race control monitoring (but not disclosing) voltage would not break this rule and would be a distinct advantage for marshal safety.

Re data logging, note the word DURING. No problem getting lots of post race info.

If my handbook is so rare, maybe I should put it on Ebay, or maybe you should all remember where you put your copy.

So are the new transponders going to be £15 inc P+P or what? lol

mark christopher · #62 27-11-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbkRob

2009 handbook (printed) page 15, rile 10, paragraph 3.
"It is not allowed to use any form of active telemetary, which in the opinion of the event officials or stewards, is judged to give a competitor an advantage during a race. Therefore, it is not allowed for any radio/wireless signals to be transmitted from the car to an external source during a race, that is judged by the officials to give the driver a competitive advantage during that particular race.

(not sure I'm 100% agreed on the Therefore but that is another issue AND NOT FOR THIS THREAD!)

So...............................

You can't find out how much juice is still in the tank, or indeed monitor voltage, if that is judged to be a competitive advantage.

BUT................................

Race control monitoring (but not disclosing) voltage would not break this rule and would be a distinct advantage for marshal safety.

Re data logging, note the word DURING. No problem getting lots of post race info.

If my handbook is so rare, maybe I should put it on Ebay, or maybe you should all remember where you put your copy.

i have one and i qouted off the brca online one????

rob the bit in bold
in my ic car you notice the reciever pack voltage is down, how is that going to help the saftey of the marshal??, unless you tell me or ask me to pull of the track,(which im not going to do with dam good reason) but by doing that your giving me info transmitted by my car,
see what i mean?

DCM · #63 27-11-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbkRob

2009 handbook (printed) page 15, rile 10, paragraph 3.
"It is not allowed to use any form of active telemetary, which in the opinion of the event officials or stewards, is judged to give a competitor an advantage during a race. Therefore, it is not allowed for any radio/wireless signals to be transmitted from the car to an external source during a race, that is judged by the officials to give the driver a competitive advantage during that particular race.

(not sure I'm 100% agreed on the Therefore but that is another issue AND NOT FOR THIS THREAD!)

So...............................

You can't find out how much juice is still in the tank, or indeed monitor voltage, if that is judged to be a competitive advantage.

BUT................................

Race control monitoring (but not disclosing) voltage would not break this rule and would be a distinct advantage for marshal safety.

Re data logging, note the word DURING. No problem getting lots of post race info.

If my handbook is so rare, maybe I should put it on Ebay, or maybe you should all remember where you put your copy.

nope, your not the only one, I have 4 here, and read the online one too.

bbkRob · #64 27-11-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher

i have one and i qouted off the brca online one????

rob the bit in bold
in my ic car you notice the reciever pack voltage is down, how is that going to help the saftey of the marshal??, unless you tell me or ask me to pull of the track,(which im not going to do with dam good reason) but by doing that your giving me info transmitted by my car,
see what i mean?

"Black flag car 7, indicated voltage below x volts" or "Warning to marshals, Car 7 indicates a low voltage and may loose control" or maybe "Videos on car 7, this might be good" or after the race "Car 7 check your receiver power supply". Hardly a driver advantage either way.

Depends on how the risk of low voltage is assessed. Maybe it is of no use whatsoever.

bbkRob · #65 27-11-2009

Going to eat now, next update bright and early tomorrow.

mark christopher · #66 27-11-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbkRob

"Black flag car 7, indicated voltage below x volts" or "Warning to marshals, Car 7 indicates a low voltage and may loose control" or maybe "Videos on car 7, this might be good" or after the race "Car 7 check your receiver power supply". Hardly a driver advantage either way.

Depends on how the risk of low voltage is assessed. Maybe it is of no use whatsoever.

lol rob i like the car 7 may loose control, you can shout that every run with my driving

coolcars782 · #67 27-11-2009

I have a DX3s and i have the temperature wire set up arund the motor in my b4, will i be able to keep it there for regionals or what?

MALLET · #68 27-11-2009

Yes you can cool, this rule was set toward 1/8th nitro only, as someone thought that while you are racing you can read what it says on your hand set....As if I've got enough on looking at me bloody buggy never mind that. I doubt anyone can give off the readings that are coming up on their hand sets while they are racing flat out.

coolcars782 · #69 27-11-2009

well ive got it on there only to see how the batteries get at the end of the race

mark christopher · #70 27-11-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MALLET

Yes you can cool, this rule was set toward 1/8th nitro only, as someone thought that while you are racing you can read what it says on your hand set....As if I've got enough on looking at me bloody buggy never mind that. I doubt anyone can give off the readings that are coming up on their hand sets while they are racing flat out.

i disagree mallet as a regional offroad meeting would use the brca "general rules" so it would not be allowed

all sections have to comply to general rules, and its NOT just 8th

taken from the Handbook read the red bit
http://www.brca.org/BRCA/library/BRCA2009.pdf

expect to see a totally different handbook layout this year

General Rules

These Rules are applicable to all sections
1. Members

It is accepted that all BRCA members have read the rules, contained within this publication, understand them, and agree to be bound by them during the period of their membership.

mark christopher · #71 27-11-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolcars782

I have a DX3s and i have the temperature wire set up arund the motor in my b4, will i be able to keep it there for regionals or what?

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolcars782

well ive got it on there only to see how the batteries get at the end of the race

general rules ban any telementry, so i would think practice only, race meeting nope as above post all sections have to use general rules and as a brca regional is a santioned meeting general rules apply

MALLET · #72 27-11-2009

I was just answering what I was told by someone who was at the BRCA meeting and was arguing about this situation. He then told us that it was just aimed towards the 1/8th national nitro buggy and truggy meetings.

I know what it says in the book, as I keep doing same as you, telling people to read and abide the rules.

mark christopher · #73 27-11-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MALLET

I was just answering what I was told by someone who was at the BRCA meeting and was arguing about this situation. He then told us that it was just aimed towards the 1/8th national nitro buggy and truggy meetings.

I know what it says in the book, as I keep doing same as you, telling people to read and abide the rules.

nope 10th ic ban it too as do snoring cars, as you know if its in the book, its there for a reason....... hence the new look hand book due this year

coolcars782 · #74 27-11-2009

hmm i guess i will be taking it out then

DaveG28 · #75 27-11-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MALLET

Yes you can cool, this rule was set toward 1/8th nitro only, as someone thought that while you are racing you can read what it says on your hand set....As if I've got enough on looking at me bloody buggy never mind that. I doubt anyone can give off the readings that are coming up on their hand sets while they are racing flat out.

I put a stopwatch on my handset for 8th so I know when I am going to need to pitstop.

Have yet to successfully read the watchface without crashing....