Bloomin Ebay Urgent Advice needed!!!

[gaza121]

Chaps

Advice needed pronto!!!
Won a caravan on Ebay last night with a winning bid of £4500 (reserve met and have emails from ebay to say I have won item).

Recieved an email off the seller asking if I would be ok paying £5000 for the van as its a bargain!!!!

Where do I stand legally on this is she obliged to sell etc and how would you proceed

Thanks in advance

Gaz

[burgie]

you only have to pay the price that won the auction, as that is legally binding. If the seller didn't get what he wanted for the caravan, he should have put a higher reserve on it.

I bet when you go and pick it up, there is some unknown damage on the 'van...

[pugboy]

It's so annoying some of the numpties you get on ebay. The winning bid is the winning bid. End of. It's the seller's risk, if they want to put a reserve on they should do that when posting not after the event. Unfortunately whilst they probably have a contract to sell it to you they will most likely just close their account if you don't agree as I've seen that done before. Also, would you really want to deal with someone who does that no matter how good the price is...? It's a bad indication, there could be other cans of worms there (van is knocked off etc.).

[Mr_M]

As Burgie has already said, you have a legally binding contract with the seller at the level of the winning bid .

That's the good news though

In practice ebay are likely to be very little help in enforcing this - yes, you can raise a dispute and they will take their own sanctions against the seller, but there is little they can practically do to force through the deal. If you really want the caravan and the seller doens't want to sell then you would have to start legal proceedings.

It may be that, as pugboy and burgie have said, there's something suspicious about the whole deal - but it's more likely that the seller just hasn't got as much as they wanted. I'm not a lawyer, but I strongly suspect that the advice you would get at this stage is to send a polite and friendly reply saying basically "thanks - but no thanks" - that you still want the caravan and are happy to honour your winning bid. Don't mention legal action etc at this stage - just leave it at that and see what the seller says.

If she comes back and says no deal - at that stage you should then politely remind her that you have a legally binding deal. Whatever you do though keep it polite and friendly in tone - if you do go down the legal route later then getting ars*y now may count against you.

Good luck and let us know how you get on

[gaza121]

Mr-M

Thanks for the advice buddy, Thats EXACTLY what I have done kepy it polite etc will be polite one more time then mention I have spoken to ebay legal as she is legally obliged to sell the van, dont want to push or be rude with them as mentioned above it may be accidentally damaged!!!

Will let you know!!

G

[racingdwarf]

I had this a few years ago with a set of ko radio. Won the item,it had no reserve, won it for about £90, like you recived the emails from ebay saying you have won the item. I then recived an email from the seller were he said he was not prepared to let it go for that amout and if I were to double the winning bid he would sell! I sent an email back saying he should have set a reserve, and I had won fair and square and was not paying another penny, he then sent his phone number, so I rang him, He said he was unable to sell for that amount and that he was unsusure how ebay worked! yet he had 20 feedback, so he had been doing it a while. I never paid, he never sent the item! Ebay un intrested realy.

But in your case it's a much larger sum of money, Like has been said, you have bought the item and sould be able to start legal procedings, but thats loads of hassle, prob better to find another van.Leave him the worst feedback known to man!

Thing is on big items people try to list the item for as little as poss, thus they don't want to pay a reserve price fee

You could arrange to go see the Van, It may be a stunner and still cheep at 5000,and worth 6000 As you have been polite all the way through you may be able to hammer out a deal at 4750 or somthing,As you have the leverage of already winning on ebay, and I suspect they need the money, You will also be able to work out if it all genuine or not

[jhammond]

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[colmo]

In the instance of a transaction going bad, the first thing you should do, after exhausting your options contacting the other party, is raise a case in the Resolution Centre. That way the case is traceable and Ebay are on your side. Once the case is resolved, you're free to sell to someone else (when selling), and will be refunded if you've paid already (buying).

[Big G]

I had a similar thing. a bloke I knew had a Vw Corrado with a 1.8 20vT lump in it. he blew it up and wrote off the bottom end. After bringing the car to the vw garage i worked at and providing a new 20vT lump we swapped the engines round and off he went.

then he decided to sell the spare head on ebay. I won it for £21 and paid instantly saying I'll collect it. I was in Cardiff and he was in Newport so only down the road.

I then got a laughable email off him saying he was hardly going to sell it for the price of a round of drinks. I told him he should of put a reserve on or started the bidding off higher. it's ended on £21 and I won. end of. he refunded my £21 and told me to sod off.

In the end 90 days passed and no one left feedback + I never saw him again.

[Col]

I have just 1 simple thing to say...

PIKEY!!

[Dudders]

Nowt wrong with Caravans

[sldmodels]

I'd be tempted to cancel the whole thing if they're getting funny with you now, and report the issue to ebay.

I had a similar issue away from ebay a few years ago with a hotel stay. I looked for a hotel room, and saw one for £5 per night, now I realise this might have been an error that hotel had made, but there we're other places saying the same, and it wouldn't be uncommon to get deals that seem too good to be true. I turned up at the hotel with the relevant paperwork, and was then told the room was more like £50. I argued with them that they'd advertised at the cheaper rate, but they wouldn't have it, so I got in the car and found somewhere else that cost me about £50 anyway, but the point was, I wasn't going to give them my money when I felt they'd been dishonest with me, I'd rather pay more to someone else, but maybe that's just me.

[gaza121]

To all the People that offered me advice

Just want to say a BIG THANKYOU for the advice:thu mbsup::thu mbsup:
Spoke to the seller this evening and explained NICELY we had entered a leaglly binding deal and they have now agreed KINDLY to honor the sale!!!

Cheers

Gary

[Col]

Good result Gaz

[Si Coe]

One of things people don't get about Ebay is that there aren't really many bargains, unless you are the only bidder and the dealer forgot to set a reserve.
If the listing is good, the item not incredibly specialist, and the auction runs for a decent amount of time, the final price is normally pretty much the true market value of the item.
In the case of the caravan, you paid £4500 because your bid was higher than the second place bidder, who I guess thought it was worth £4490!
So the caravan isn't worth £5000 or £6000. Its worth £4500 because thats the highest figure anyone was willing to pay for it. Thats how auctions work.

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by gaza121

To all the People that offered me advice

Just want to say a BIG THANKYOU for the advice:thu mbsup::thu mbsup:
Spoke to the seller this evening and explained NICELY we had entered a leaglly binding deal and they have now agreed KINDLY to honor the sale!!!

Cheers

Gary

good result now to collect it

Mr Smith
Pikey avenue
Knickit lane
Scum of the earth

[liam]

If you get there and something dont seem right just make some excuse about going to the bank and then walk away from the deal.

Also check the etchings on the windows, there might be a database of stolen goods its listed on, like you would buyinhg a used car

[bodgit]

When you get there tell him its not as described and ask him to knock £500 off for a laugh.

[DaSloth]

i can just envisage the scene from snatch where they drive off and the wheels stay where they started

</giggle>

[minke]

Dont forget your free dog