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keep the rules as current efra/eb | 18 | 12.00% | |
allow some discression have a 1 or 2mm tolerance to cover comercially available cells | 93 | 62.00% | |
i would consider not doing a BRCA sanctioned meeting if i could not do lipo | 68 | 45.33% | |
i will race brca sanctioned events no matter what | 36 | 24.00% | |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 150. You may not vote on this poll |
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the poll has given me my answers, i like many are fustrated, believe it or not i still have faith in the EB/BRCA officials who have a taskless job. i purposly asked for no one to bash them, that achieves nothing. lee has pointed out its going round in circles, most debates do. thank you every one for your input. mark
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I've run at plenty of other clubs in the last few weeks with no problems - Workshop and Stotfold - both excellent venues. If the hobby is not enjoyable there is not point doing it. Lipos are clearly the way forward for the sport. I recognise that your livelihood depends on selling items from your shop and running the club is a necessary part of your business. That is why I didn't 'name and shame'. You brought your name to this thread. And you are allowed run the club in any way you wish. As for 'sour grapes' - it certainly is but this is your loss not mine. The parts I purchased last night, I need for Stotford this Sunday. (The Associated front wheels don't fit by the way. The hex is too deep and the rim rubs the hub thanks for the advice.) There are plenty of other clubs and shops that don't have a 'run what your purchased here' mentality. |
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Yes but we dont, the rules are ALL made by the membership, this LIPO rule has all been made by the majority of the members, not me alone. Quote:
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I think you need to assess your ideas and appreciate that all "I" did last night was stick to the rules that "OUR" club runs to, if you have not observed these and wonder in from the blue ignorant of them that is not our fault. I suggested last night to get you out of a whole to ask to "borrow" some NIMH's and yet the racer pitting right next to you was more than prepared to lend you some but was not even asked (Alan). You have to accept rules somtimes and try to help yourself and not place the blame elsewhere.
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Darren, so you guys have banned saddle lipo's for being 2mm too big even before there is a proper ruling by the EB? And this is for club racing!? You sound like a really easy going bunch
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jeeez...is this discussion still rolling on?
Nice to see it has stayed on topic without any diversions or "hijacks" for a change. |
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i thought rc car racing was ALL about having fun, meeting new people and enjoying the sport for what it is.
Also i thought club racing was meant to be the entry point for "the sport" so if people havent got the correct equipment (where ever purchased from) surly the "rules" could be slightly over looked (and points not counted towards any championship) at least people could get a taster Also surly this isnt the place for one on one tit for tat come on everyone lets try and get on, everyone has there own opinions and this is surposed to be a family sport |
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I think there is only one way to really solve this. We need to break into factions. The NIMH boys, the LIPO brick boys, the LIPO saddle boys and declare war. We ban all weapons, the only way to take out your enemy is to overcharge your chosen batteries till they neutralise the opposition. Whoever wins means everyone has to use that battery type in any official race forever or they will be refused food and water and zapped with high voltage charge to their nads.
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No Carl, we have not banned saddle LIPO up until the AGM ALL LIPO was banned, we allowed LIPO as from that date, now what we are doing is ADDING LIPO as they get approved by the BRCA etc. All the appropriate ones are on the list in stick format and as soon as the rules are confirmed for saddles they will all be added too. Our "Banned" list only includes 3 packs of cells (all of which we do sell), our "Approved" list is over 20 long now.
Steve, I agree with the bulk of your comments, the idea though of not letting pojnts count etc, we are not suggesting that there is any advantage from running them, its just that we dont allow their use, as a rule, which the club runs to (at present) To all, we are a club who welcome everyone, from anywhere, but with LIPO we want to make sure that they are all above all else safe, other rules apply, but safety is our prime concern. As soon as the AGM was held we allowed LIPO, since they were voted in. We added all the "widely available" packs from the EB list to OUR own list for the club. As soon as saddles are approved we will add them too, if the BRCA decline them we will make a judgement based on safety (not silly 1 - 2mm oversizing) and add the appropriate ones for all to use (wherever they come from) Sorry to divert the thread slightly, but what had been posted about us and our club in particular was incorrect and twisted form the truth, I took the chance to set the record straight. Being a welcoming family club has been what has kept us going so far for nearly 16 years and it wont change now, we problably have less rules and restrictions than most clubs in the country!!
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Carl, love your reply before mine, comedy!!!! War it is, LIPO till the end....... LOL
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Regardless of the various conspiracy theories, arguments and hearsay... LIPOS have been pased for 2009 based on an eagerly awaited homologation list. -anybody who is has bought lipos already is taking a chance on wether their particular cells willl be passed. I can see why there is popular support for the Trackpower saddles as they are about the only ones on the market.... But even if the dimension rules were tweaked wouldn't the existing TP saddles cells still fail anyway beacuse the case isn't bonded? Its unfortunate for trackpowers business, but s**t happens. An internet slanging match isn't going to fix anything. All I will say is well done Schumacher! I'm sure they are pretty happy with the launch date of their new stick pack 4wd car coinciding with this saddle argument. |
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Which hard cased packs are bonded together? My 3200 Orion is held together with double sided tape, the case has fallen off a few times
The case has never fallen off my TrakPowers...... which is the best solution? G
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I have an even simpler solution - sell all the 10th scale cars and come and race micro buggies. Our section allows any make\kind of 2 cell lipo and NIMHs. 1 set of tyres can last a whole season and we are not effected by the crappy weather. Job done
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Not a question of whats better, its question of whats going to be allowed. I assume the bonded case idea is not for strength but to try and stop people putting an illegal cell inside a case from a legal pack, or to stop people from getting in to solder to the internal tabs. If i made the rules i would ban cells with flying leads protruding from the case (like the Core packs) in favour on packs like trackpower and orion with integral connectors. |
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18th rules!
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preaching to the converted mate!! lol
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I see Reedy have released some new hard case saddle pack lipos, anybody know if the sizes are inside what is now legal ? 69mm long 47mm wide 28mm high 5100mah, nice to see 35c rated.
http://67.199.85.166/main/productdet...ory=5101.xxxxx And it says they will be out by December is that to late to get them on a approved list ?. |
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height is 23.5 or 25mm i think. 28mm is too high.
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Max 139x47x25
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Clarification from EFRA
http://www.efra.ws/news/executive001.html
13 Nov Lipo rules, important correction Some draft versions of the Electric minutes found their way to the public and websites. Unfortunately there was an error discovered by the proof reader on Saturday evening and corrected for publishing on Sunday. It concerns the height of the cases for Lipos. The final version such as distributed in the morning was the corrected one and is now on this website: The height of the case is 23,5 mm and NOT 25 mm
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