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Old 03-04-2009
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hi,
Have you a good starting cat sx's set up for astro track ?
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Here is my setup for a very high grip astro track. For those who know the Belgian GP track, this setup is for a track with even more grip !
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Is anyone lese having trouble viewing this? I just get two blanks sheets???
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Is anyone lese having trouble viewing this? I just get two blanks sheets???

Apparently the pdf-file on my USB-stick is not working. I'll try uploading a viewable version when I get home.
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I will post a new thread for sure for the Cat XLS. I will post a pic of the old cat.

I'm going to try your setup at the track this weekend, I'll tell you how it goes.

I just wanted to know if there any alluminum rear hubs for the new cat, or any other compatible parts for the new cat. I noticed the rear hubs are a little brittle.
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I will post a new thread for sure for the Cat XLS. I will post a pic of the old cat.

I'm going to try your setup at the track this weekend, I'll tell you how it goes.

I just wanted to know if there any alluminum rear hubs for the new cat, or any other compatible parts for the new cat. I noticed the rear hubs are a little brittle.
I have never ever heard or seen of any rear hubs breaking. Have you done any? From experience, in a big crash the rear wishbone will go first, but only in a BIG crash, they are certainly not weak.
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Yeah it was a BIG rear end hit, twice. It was during practice, and Slasher did me in the first time, and the second was a T4. I haven't broken any since. Gotta watch out for the monsters.

Attached is a pic of the old XLS Cat.
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Attached is a pic of the old XLS Cat.
It shouldn't need that much to get it running, you've got the hardest part to find intact, which is the rear upper wishbone assembly, repro shells are available on fleabay, good luck restoring it
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Old 10-04-2009
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Here is my setup for a very high grip astro track. For those who know the Belgian GP track, this setup is for a track with even more grip !
New attempt.

Remember : this is a setup for a very high grip astro track, hence the staggered ribs at the front. It's not a universal astro setup.
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hi stefke,
thanks for info but with grey spring on rear it isn't too stif (because it is the same spring als carpet indoor track), have you try red spring?
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hi stefke,
thanks for info but with grey spring on rear it isn't too stif (because it is the same spring als carpet indoor track), have you try red spring?
in fact I qualified with rear red springs, but the grey springs I used during the finals allowed me to lower the car a bit more without botteming after jumps. And it provided a bit more agressive steering with the front staggered ribs. That track is very smooth so the suspension doesn't have to cope with bumps.
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thanks for the setup! I'm going to try it next week at the track. I haven't tried the Cat with the sway bar in the front yet. Who makes the staggered rib Y tyres?

thanks...
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Hi guys,

here's my setup for the MVB track in the Netherlands. It's a dirt track some a section with carpet on it.

I'm having some difficulties to keep the rear end in the good direction and will need some more stability to make more constant laps. Turn-in steering is brilliant and suits my driving style ver good but coming out of the corner makes the rear end loose.

Reading through the replies above I should consider an overdrive pulley and the 7.5 blocks but is there anything more I can do about it without these items?

Thanks in advance,
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Take a look at the setup on the Schumacher website that i ran at the Euros on Clay. Good place to start if your after something to try.

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Old 17-04-2009
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OK Si,

I'll switch my setup to yours and give it a try on this weekend's club meeting. Will keep you updated.

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Old 18-04-2009
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A few people have emailled me asking for the setup i ran last week at Southport. For those who dont know the track is high grip and pretty bumpy, multi surface throughout.

Front -

Track Washers - 1mm front and back
Roll Bar - No
Shock Position Mount - Middle
Shock Position Wishbone - Middle
Front Rake - 10 degrees
Washers - 3.5mm
Front Link Bracket - 43mm
Washers on Hub - 0
Front Yokes - 7.5degree alloy, inside hole

Rear -
Wheel Base - Short
Toe In - 2.5mm Rear, .5mm front = 2.6 degrees
Anti Squat Washers - 2mm Rear, 0.5mm Front = 1.95 degrees
Rear Link Bracket - 37.5mm
Washers - 4mm
Shock Position Mount - Middle
Shock Position Wishbone - Inside
Hub Postion - Outside
Roll Bar - 1.2


Shocks

Front -
30wt on 3 Holes
Schumacher Grey Springs
Diaphragm - Centre cut out and removed
Ride Height - Wishbones level

Rear -
27.5wt (mixed Schumacher, not Losi) on 3 Holes
Schumacher Red Springs
Diaphragm - Centre cut out and removed
Ride Height - Wishbones level

Transmission-
Rear Diff Height - High
Front Diff Height - High
Layshaft Pulley - Pin Through
Front Drive - One Way
Gearing - 81 x 24 on Speed Passion 5.5
Internal Ratio - 34 Tooth Pulley

This setup will give you a fair bit of steering.

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Simons setup as PDF, well it shows that the PDF is too big so sorry


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Old 20-04-2009
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Here is Simon Moss'setup @ Southport on 12.04.2009

And here is Ralf Missel'setup @ Leonberg on 22-23.03.2009

Both PDF documents were filled by Cruise.

Thanks again!
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I believe there is something wrong with Simon Moss set-up, take a look of front and rear shocks..

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I believe there is something wrong with Simon Moss set-up, take a look of front and rear shocks..

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I did not check prior as I did trust Cruise but that's sorted.
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