Cougar SV info and price announced!

[luismracing]

Dazzler.. the R/C shops have a smaller profit margins than the people think...I have also to work hard (more than 10 hours a day a lot of days) to earn my hard money...
If we´ll have a large margins, all shops owners will drive a Ferrari.. and not further from the real life.

According to you to sell at lower prices as posible... but take in mind that Shops are not ONG´s...

Obviously I will get my Cougar at cost price... but it´s not more cheaper than you can get in the shop...believe me.

Regards from Spain

[Dazzler]

Luis,

The point really is that we do the same with everything we buy, it's not just a model shop thing. Now as for having a kit at cost, you could say it is a perk of the job. But I also work atleast 10 hours a day to earn at my own business, now I get no perk apart from a wage, and then I have to buy at lets say full price to support your argument. So you also work 10 hours, you take a wage from your business and then from your wage you want to buy a discounted product, allbeit from your own business? So the average customer wants to do the same. Simple. I'm not saying shops should cut their throats to deliver good deals, but when customers are buying over the internet, they will compare prices. I don't have the luxury of having a decent model shop carrying good stock of kits and spares near by so internet buying and paying postage is far cheaper than driving around the country for me. My prefered model shops are hundreds of miles away and i've never even been in their shops, the ones I have used previously on smaller orders and recieved good prompt service are also my prefered ones when making larger purchases. Lets be clear, I would not buy from somewhere I'd never used for the sake of a few pounds, but the difference already being quoted on this kit at various well know shops is worth consideration.

I enjoy having a browse round a good model shop and would as a foot customer like to visit, buy and walk out with goods, but it' just not practical for me.

[MK Racing]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

im guessing same as the cat sx

As I posted earlier in this thread, the S1 will not have big bores or even the SX shocks, the shocks will be the same design as used on their RTR cars that fill from the bottom.

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by MarcKnight

As I posted earlier in this thread, the S1 will not have big bores or even the SX shocks, the shocks will be the same design as used on their RTR cars that fill from the bottom.

sorry mark, if you read the thread above mine, i was talking about diff height

[MK Racing]

Sorry Carl, I quoted the wrong post, this is the one i ment to quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott

Schumacher emailed me when I asked about the S1, they won't be big bore. I imagine they'll be like the current Cat SX shocks.

Marc

[bigred5765]

lol no worries

[eichkay]

Wonder how many pre-orders are out there... and which person on oople gets the glory of posting there built car up first.

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by luismracing

With the war´s price finally the shops have a small profit in sales and it´s difficult have a large stocks if the benefit can afford to put back the spare parts and kits.

Wouldnt´be better that all the shops establish same prices on kits??
This way all shops earn the same (now there are shops that so as to sell, lower the prices up to the cost.... there is not solution if some shops go on this line) and customers only need choose the shop for aftersales service and customer support.

Same price all shops=customers choose the better service...It´s easy.

This way we can mantain the R/C shops industry and a lot of jobs.

It´s only my point of view that only have "20 years" experience in R/C competion&sales..

I´m owner of a shop in Spain and distributor of Schumacher in Spain since 2001...I´m waiting for my Cougar also¡¡¡

Originally Posted by Dazzler

I assume you are going to put the full RRP throught the till for yours then? Or are you going to take advantage of being a shop owner and have one at cost? When spending our hard earned money, most people like to get a good deal, not necessarily the cheapest, but not the most expensive either.

However it would make life a lot easier if all shops sold them at the same cheap price

if all the shops in the uk got together and said right were all charging £250 there would be one solution

they would all end up in courts as its illegal for companies to do that!

[Darren Boyle]

At the end of the day, the individual price is up to each shop. Some feel they have to be cheapest by every last penny, no matter what to get the sale and other stores will still some a few at FULL RRP. We try to give a price that is fair, represents good value for the customers and a price that ensures we will continue to be around in the industry to support what we have sold. It is no good giving stuff away for no profit since you wont have a shop around to supply you for very long.

As several have said in the thread already, it is not all about price.. take Hamleys in London as an example, they sell more Tamiya cars in a week than most shops do in a year, have you seen their prices?? Thats how they are one of the largest toy shops in the world!

[Thomas B]

Any news on the Race S1? Pictures? Relese date?

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by Thomas B

Any news on the Race S1? Pictures? Relese date?

imconfused what do you mean,

[pro4nut]

Originally Posted by mark christopher

if all the shops in the uk got together and said right were all charging £250 there would be one solution

they would all end up in courts as its illegal for companies to do that!

Not quite true Mark, retailers selling similar products often have arrangements with pricing and not just to keep prices high.

Consider the price of a playstation 3, what is the cheapest you can buy it for on the high street? (not online)

There are many things that are not fully legal which still occur, although you are right price arrangements do end up in court, milk in supermarkets being an interesting one.

Also distributers and manufacturers often have an allowed variance from the RRP if someone goes to far below that price they find stock very difficult to come by. A major high street phone retailer found itself having one of the manufacturers refusing to supply it over pricing, so actually had to import 'grey' stock to cover the shortfall.

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by pro4nut

Not quite true Mark, retailers selling similar products often have arrangements with pricing and not just to keep prices high.

Consider the price of a playstation 3, what is the cheapest you can buy it for on the high street? (not online)

There are many things that are not fully legal which still occur, although you are right price arrangements do end up in court, milk in supermarkets being an interesting one.

Also distributers and manufacturers often have an allowed variance from the RRP if someone goes to far below that price they find stock very difficult to come by. A major high street phone retailer found itself having one of the manufacturers refusing to supply it over pricing, so actually had to import 'grey' stock to cover the shortfall.

try reading this
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg...cId=1074014670
if companies come together and fix a price, its illegal, im not talking distributers.

my example is if dms. mk racing microtech all had a get together and said right lets charge £250 for it, the above link applies

[carlin]

It's very illegal as Mark C says CARTEL i believe someone tried doing that while back saying no names.

I used to do alot of cycling & you will find alot of cycle shops all the RRP are the same which has always been strange one. Je James - Lesuire Lakes - Evans etc just naming a few.
Though i have found to keep the CARTEL out of play they offer like 10% of anything you by with the sale like SPD's - Cycle lights - Helmets so on. So just proves thier is way round the system.

[frogger]

It's illegal for shops to come together and price fix but I believe it's not illegal for a manufacturer to insist that all shops sell at RRP and no lower. I know that when I was looking around to buy my GoPro Hero HD helmet camera I spoke with 2 shops that said they are not allowed to sell below the RRP of the product, it's a condition of being supplied by the manufacturer. So maybe not as straight forward as it first seems.

[Danosborne6661]

Originally Posted by frogger

It's illegal for shops to come together and price fix but I believe it's not illegal for a manufacturer to insist that all shops sell at RRP and no lower. I know that when I was looking around to buy my GoPro Hero HD helmet camera I spoke with 2 shops that said they are not allowed to sell below the RRP of the product, it's a condition of being supplied by the manufacturer. So maybe not as straight forward as it first seems.

Also the Apple iPhone, Apple make it so the Mobile companies can't negotiate with tariffs.
My Cougar was £229.99 from Roundabout Toys, couldn't really beat that in my opinion :O

[coolcars782]

[QUOTE=frogger;342970]It's illegal for shops to come together and price fix[QUOTE]


Why cant shops do this? Why is it illegal?

[frogger]

Originally Posted by coolcars782

Why cant shops do this? Why is it illegal?

Read the above link that Mark Cristopher posted. It's because it's anti competitive.

[Gibbon666]

I thought that was what Hasbro got in trouble for - price fixing.

As far as I know, they can't set the price you sell at - hence the name Recommended Retail Price (RRP) or Suggested Retail Price (SRP).

Originally Posted by frogger

It's illegal for shops to come together and price fix but I believe it's not illegal for a manufacturer to insist that all shops sell at RRP and no lower. I know that when I was looking around to buy my GoPro Hero HD helmet camera I spoke with 2 shops that said they are not allowed to sell below the RRP of the product, it's a condition of being supplied by the manufacturer. So maybe not as straight forward as it first seems.

[frogger]

Originally Posted by Gibbon666

I thought that was what Hasbro got in trouble for - price fixing.

As far as I know, they can't set the price you sell at - hence the name Recommended Retail Price (RRP) or Suggested Retail Price (SRP).

I guess they mean that retailers are welcome to sell above the RRP