Aluminium rear hubs - old or new version ?

[Oops]

Hi,

I'd like to buy the aluminium 0° rear Hubs for my RB6.
I've the choice between the old version and the new one with plastic sleeves.

Almost the same price but the new hubs are not comming with bearings.

What could be the difference between the old ones with bigger bearings and the new ones with plastic sleeves and kit bearings ?

wich one is better ?

Thanks

[Shimmy]

I don't think there's really any difference performance wise.

Only going to gain something that may last a bit longer and the option to run different sized bearings.

[Gayo]

Hey Oops
I believe there must be some kind of performance advantage in the new hubs, like more grip thanks to the soft plastic, or less wear on the bearings.

[tomtom]

Kyosho French team, I have to shime in !

I would favor a larger bearing but after a while the old hubs got some serious slop between bearings and hubs contact paths (metal/metal) and the smaller inside bearing is quite hard to extract so 100% on the new hubs as the plastic parts will help to stop wearing inside the hubs and are available as parts to cure any future slop/play.

I would buy the new hubs and find larger bearings (Kanzen ?) to have best of both worlds, large bearings and plastic sleeves

Gayo, could you explain us the "more grip thingy" due to soft plastic ?

[Oops]

many Thanks guys !

Wow there is almost all the Paris Kyosho drivers here ;-)
I think that 3 bearing sizes instead of 1 is better to find spare in case of breakage !!
I'll buy the new version !
thanks again

[Gayo]

Hum, my english is quite rusty but I will try

Is it quite notorious that an all-plastic car often leads to more mechanical grip. You have less weight, less stiffness, more give, and your car becomes easier and faster than a all-metal aluminium basher car.

I think that the new hubs allow the car to have a little give, so you get a little more grip, maybe also less breakage of the wheel axles. And as you said, you also get the benefit of less wear and less unsprung weight. Win-win in my book

Wow I did it

[mr emily]

Whos using the v2 rear hubs and what change in set up is there with this over the standard plastic hubs?

[RudeTony]

Originally Posted by Gayo

Hum, my english is quite rusty but I will try

Is it quite notorious that an all-plastic car often leads to more mechanical grip. You have less weight, less stiffness, more give, and your car becomes easier and faster than a all-metal aluminium basher car.

I think that the new hubs allow the car to have a little give, so you get a little more grip, maybe also less breakage of the wheel axles. And as you said, you also get the benefit of less wear and less unsprung weight. Win-win in my book

Wow I did it

You are spot on!!
The newer version are excellent allowing for the accuracy of the bearing fitment while having the flexibility and the strength at the same time.

[paulj]

Originally Posted by mr emily

Whos using the v2 rear hubs and what change in set up is there with this over the standard plastic hubs?

Hi Keith

I've got 0 degree V2 hubs on my RB6 plus a spare set of the older V1 hubs with 1 degree toe for wet conditions. Both the V1 and V2 hubs give you the extra camber link holes so you have both B and B2 positions for 4 holes total at the hub. With plastic hubs you need to change the hubs to get both positions, there are two different part numbers on the set up sheet for this. So you can fine tune the camber link length without swapping hubs.

The V2 hub gives the option of bigger bearings on the outside for longer bearing life and the V1 hubs came supplied with these bearings from new. V2 uses inserts to change the bearing size and protect the hub from wear in the bearing pockets as you can buy spare inserts.

[foampervert]

Hiya folks!

i have a pair of 1 degree v1 hubs and am wondering if the bearing inserts from the v2 hubs, can be fitted into the v1 hubs to reduce bearing size?

Actually, i'm just keen to not let the hubs wear out more then they are.

-Alexander