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13-11-2013
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Yokomo bmax2 rs or dex210
Hi guys,
I want to give myself a little x-mas present and I thought I would give a 2wd buggy a shot. I'm not the best of drivers so I need something that's easy to drive, but still can So so competitive on the track. Both cars are around 150us$ here in Japan and support is about equal. So what would you recommend? 
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13-11-2013
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If you have the chance to try out either car, I would recommend it
 (and preferably from drivers who know how to set up a car, so you get a good impression of what the car can do).Also, what terrain do you drive on? I found the DEX210 is good out of the box if there is a lot of grip. However, when there is little grip (dirt, dusty clay) there are some design features on the rear end that make it struggle (not enough rear droop and high roll center). The droop issue is easily solved with a Dremel, the roll center needs additional parts or machining. (Note: I only drive the car in MM - that's why the grip issues on the rear exaggerate. Still, they may apply on the RM too). Lastly, I found the quality of some plastic parts is debatable: Not as accurate as that of competitors, and the plastic is so soft that threads strip relatively easily. Problem areas aside, the car like I said is very good out of the box when there is grip, it's a very clever design which makes it convenient and fun to work on, and apart from the low roll center on the rear, everything is there out of the box to set up your car just the way you like, which makes the car really flexible between low bite and high bite tracks without buying upgrades The BMax I haven't driven, so I can't comment on that.
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13-11-2013
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I have had both. I couldn't get to grips with the 210, I ran the bmax2 for a year. The bmax has got bags of rear grip and really does improve consistency lap after lap. It's a safe car but now my abilities improving a bit I found I am quicker with something a bit more nimble. That being said it was the perfect car for where my ability was a year ago.
When the 210 is setup right it's a great car, the problem is there is so much adjustability setup up wise it was hard for someone like me who had been racing less than a year to get it right track after track.
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13-11-2013
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My track is a loamy,small and quite technical one.
When it's been watered down the grip is quite good, but on the other hand, when it's dry and covered in a thin layer of dust, you do struggle for grip. The locals favor the losi 22 2.0 and it does look good, but a bit too expensive for my blood!
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13-11-2013
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having owned both cars I would say the yokomo is the better option
I had a losi 22 and it was good, then went to a dex210 and it was easer to drive and setup, then I got the Bmax2 and its immense, easy to setup and drive and has greatly improved my abilities on the track. I couldnt recommend it highly enough
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13-11-2013
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It was from a team driver, so of course the set-up was nice... But that said, no 2WD has matched the feeling the car gave. I felt confident with his car from the first lap, the car was predictable and consistent, had amazing amounts of rear bite yet good amounts of steering. I also drove his TLR22 1.0, and the 2.0 is definetely steps ahead. It's not a totally different car, the difference is in how easily you can push the car without it biting back. Also, The most likely cause of a TLR22 going out of a race is because the front wheel nut undoes itself - the things are built bullet proof and you'll make your money back on spares and upgrades that you don't need in half a race season
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#7
17-11-2013
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Thanks for all your replies!
I just picked up a yokomo bmax2 mr  It's not the latest version with the alu chassis, but I figured that the plastic tub is a bit more forgiving to drive? At the same time I got a futaba s9551 and a nosram evo 13.5 brushless motor. I already have a yokomo bl2 turbo esc, so I'm good to go.
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17-11-2013
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If you ask me you chose wisely not to go for the new (V2/Alu chassis) kit. Admittedly the alu chassis' weight may help grip on the low-medium bite track conditions you referred to (though the MR's tub should do fine)... However, I'm pretty confident a gear diff (as included in the V2/Alu kit) would let the car down on the track conditions you referred to, it really needs a ball diff there.
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#9
20-11-2013
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Can I just add my penniesworth
Now I am not a good driver, let alone a great one.
That said, the support for Durango is very good. Parts are fairly easy to come by, and both Ellis Stafford, and Chris Doughty are very helpful trackside - I am sure Craig Collinson is as well. I have a 210, and must say that I think the Yokomo may well be the better car (the grass is always greener on the other side). That said there's a new 210 coming out that I am told would have retrofit-able parts. The worst thing on the 210 I found is the ball diff which I liken to a Krypton Factor challenge. the gear diff leaks a bit as well - though I think some associated grean slime may have cured that problem. I don't know who the Yokomo drivers are in the UK - so I can't comment on them.
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#10
20-11-2013
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hi
it is a very difficult choice between all the cars, I have both of those had RB6 and SV2 as well. Out of all I have found the SV2 to be the most involving to own, set up and drive, is it the best you ask well the likes of Simon moss get the car in to the BRCA A final and are only beaten by a Centro and Tamiya usually. I guess it depends how good a driver you are to get the most out of which ever car you choose, if you need help then get the car that wins the most at your club or if you like to do you own thing get the one you like the look of most an enjoy the challenge. regards CARB
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