Leccy 8th - Caster Fusion

[glypo]

Well t'other day I had a parcel come, and it was a Caster Fusion leccy 8th buggy.

Looks awesome! I got it to review for NeoBuggy so will be busy with that over the coming weeks in between work.

Anyone else got/getting one of these?

[turbo_brick]

What esc, motor and lipo's you going for??

Was thinking about one of these when I sell some of the other cars out of the garage.

Peter

[glypo]

No idea.

I am hoping to approach some companies and see if I can get some discounted stuff.

Ideally I am going for two TrakPower 5400mAh 2S packs, a Tekin R1 Pro and a Neu 1512.

[James]

Ive seen a tekin speedo in action, it didnt seem great maybe theyve improved them now ?

i'd try the mamba monster or speed passion when its out

trakky cells will be dialed though

[DCM]

Jason, PM me if you would like to borrow an R1Pro for the review. I can make sure the latest software is on there for you, they go real well.

[glypo]

Thanks for the kind offer.

I already have a R1 Pro in my CAT SX though (they are the nuts!) but was hoping to get the caster its own esc and put it in an alloy case to help with the cooling due to load of 8th. If worse comes to worse I will just swap my R1 Pro between my CAT and this until something permanent is sorted.

The Tekin Rx8 is not due out in time for my review sadly.

This 8th electric business not cheap, unfortunately

[Northy]

It does look a good piece of kit

G

[gramey]

I'm running an MGM 16025 Z Series in my Tekno/Losi 8T with a Neu 1515-1Y motor & Thunder Power V2 5000mah 4S lipo's. The MGM is expensive but waterproof which I thought essential for racing outdoors in our weather.
The 4S is pretty quick (pretty much the same as my nitro 8T but I haven't had chance to try different gearing options yet) but I'm going to try the TP 5S at some point just to see what difference it makes. Apparently if you go to 6S it's just totally ballistic and overkill for most tracks.

[turbo_brick]

Originally Posted by gramey

I'm running an MGM 16025 Z Series in my Tekno/Losi 8T with a Neu 1515-1Y motor & Thunder Power V2 5000mah 4S lipo's. The MGM is expensive but waterproof which I thought essential for racing outdoors in our weather.
The 4S is pretty quick (pretty much the same as my nitro 8T but I haven't had chance to try different gearing options yet) but I'm going to try the TP 5S at some point just to see what difference it makes. Apparently if you go to 6S it's just totally ballistic and overkill for most tracks.

What sort of run times are you getting???

[lochness42]

From what I've seen on forums then Mamba had many problems, probably newest series doesn't but I'm not sure. Losi esc looks good. Caster uses in their buggy Hobbywing esc which you can know also under brand Speed Passion.
For me, Losi and Hobbywing looks as best choices. (Don't know much about Novak for 1/8)

[mattbrown]

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-tea...cPath=420_1264


Any one Tried one/\/\

What are they like?

Matt

[Answer-RC-Pete]

Yep - we had the ESC`s land yesterday for the RTR spec car. It is indeed the HWing 80amp unit. Just waiting for RTR motors to land this next week then I an set a demo car up prior to the RTR cars landing with us.

[DCM]

hobby wing, we got a few running them at the club, not the easiest to set up in the world, and you get what you pay for, with them.

[Answer-RC-Pete]

Hobby Wing have a big range of ESCs and make them for quite a few different people that you may not straight away think of as Hobby Wing..

[James]

The V1 and V2 monsters were apparantley iffy but the V3 appears to be the biz..(the V1 and V2 were never released in the UK) I saw the Tekin at southport and it thermalled pretty quick, they might be better now though

[glypo]

Hobbywing make the Losi systems right?

And yes, the Castle MMM had a few issues. With a dodgy batch of transistors and also their software had a bug in on the BEC handling causing it to mess up and fry. Sorted now though (v3 I think).

The Speed Passion is a crazy size, as is the Losi system (MMM not much smaller mind!). The Tekin R1 Pro is already better than all those systems (more fets and higher quality ones too) and a fraction of the size. Fairly high cost though and needs the new alloy case to stay cool in an 8th system. I along with lots of people on here run the R1 and RS and I don't think any of us have any problems, especially with thermalling! With a 4.5 turn motor in my CAT SX, the internal sensor shows a heat of around 4/10 on the LEDS after a 5 minute run and I'm geared fast! So I have 6 LEDS (60%) more capacity before it would even think about thermalling.

The Tekin Rx8 is going to be THE system when it is out. Not as high FET count as the R1 Pro, but spread out more and with a heatsync. Less FETs mean it will be priced cheaper than the R1 Pro and yet still plenty capable of pulling a 8th buggy or truggy around a track. The fact that an R1 Pro is winning 30 minute+ races against nitro in truggies shows that it is exceptional... especially when you consider it is a 1/10th esc (again no thermal problems). Hence I have every confidence in the Rx8 and from the images I have seen it looks wicked too!

I am going to stick 4S for this. 5S will give a little more effciency, however at weight and maybe cost (although you can get away with lower quality packs when you go 5S). My main reason however though is due to standards and regulation. ROAR's preview rules are 4s limited, so i think maybe EFRA and BRCA will follow.

[lochness42]

Nope Hobbywing makes esc for many companies but not for Losi. They have their own.

[glypo]

I am almost certain Losi don't make their own. Horizon don't have expertise and wouldn't likely spend that kind of money of hiring a whole team to design it and the cost of tooling (home or abroad) in making it.

They are made for them, I just can't remember who by. I was told on good authority who by, but just can't remember. Hobby Wing just sounded very familiar when it was said hence I questioned.

[Dagger Thrasher]

Hi guys,

I'm new to oOple, but was just reading this after Glypo linked me, and thought I'd drop in my thoughts.
Losi don't make their Xcelorin ESCs. They have a contracted company to design and make their ESCs as far as I know. They don't appear to be on sale under any other brands, so it's probably a custom design. It takes a tremendous amount of specialist skill, design time and equipment to build a brushless ESC (especially the software), so it's huuuuugely unlikely that Losi have the ability.

HobbyWing make ESCs for loooads of companies, as you guys have said. Speed Passion and Venom, to name a couple. Their new (massive) ESC looks pretty poor to me, though. It's only rated to 4S, only 80A constant (which is going to seriously limit motor choice), and it's the size of a house lol. It might be ok, though.

The Mamba Monster has definitely had it's problems too, but they're pretty much all sorted now...and it's an amazing ESC. Verrrry smooth, and incredibly powerful. Castle actually tested the Losi 1/8th ESC on the Monster's 120A constant bench-test at their facility. Wheras the Monster can sustain 120A constant current for literally minutes on end, the Losi - which is stated to handle 150A constantly - thermalled within a few seconds. So many companies exaggerate current specs... :S

The Tekin RX8 is looking pretty sweet too. Glypo knows I'm a Castle guy, but if the R1 is anything to go by, it should do well. I still think you should go with a Monster, Jason...but there ya go lol. Can't wait to see the review of the Caster!

And I just want to say, "hello". This looks like a great forum. :-)

[glypo]

DT, you lost your oOple virginity! Congrats.

This is THE forum to be on, welcome. Everyone - DT is a leccy genius. Should be a real asset to the forum. Top bloke too