Recommendation needed

[chris_dono]

Hi all,
Hoping for some advise here..

I'm looking to get a 4wd in addition to my losi 22 for the winter, but there seems to be loads of choice !

What would you recommend ? (it'll be for astro and indoors mostly, not grass)

Thanks
Chris

[mattybucks]

What kind of budget have you got?

[chris_dono]

At the moment I haven't set a budget, but the decision would probably depend on the kit/spares backup.. most seem to be around the £300-350 mark ?

[Disco-Panda]

Originally Posted by chris_dono

At the moment I haven't set a budget, but the decision would probably depend on the kit/spares backup.. most seem to be around the £300-350 mark ?

B44.1!! i got mine for just under £300 from DMS Racing
there also a lovely car

[/tobys]

Kyosho FS2 or FS2 SP - awesome car! If you can wait and stretch your budget to the SP, the Big Bores are a sweet addition!!

Great prices at Insideline Racing and MK Racing too

[InsideLineModels]

We have the last few FS2 versions on clearance at £315 if Kyoshos is the way you decide to go

[Col]

Here we go again...

[chris_dono]

Originally Posted by Col

Here we go again...

If you mean "here we go again, another thread asking which is the best car" then yes

Just looking for a general feel of what's popular, had a CAT SX in the past, but haven't really kept up with it at all

[Col]

So all the other "best car" threads are not enough?

[mikeyscott]

FS2 SP or the new Durango V3 410. The new Durango is a bargain

Depends if you want a shaft driven or belt drive car.

[RogerM]

There are plenty of places where you can get the simply awesome Kyosho Lazer ZX5-FS2 in that price bracket ... try one, you will be impressed!

[Jnunu1]

Originally Posted by Col

So all the other "best car" threads are not enough?

New cars = new threads. If discussions didnt refresh and we only used forums (fora?) as libraries then:

1. It would be a very boring forum
2. Everyone would still be being recommened optima mis turbos or pb maximas.

Back on topic, new Rango worth a look.

[Col]

Fair points...

But last time I could be bothered to check there was already 2 other "which car" threads live when this one was started!

[chris_dono]

Instead of moaning about multiple threads, why not weigh in with your thoughts ? I'd love to hear them !

Seems like the popular ones at the moment are:

Kyosho
Durango
B44

[mattybucks]

What about a TRF 511, awesome car, on a 502?

[Skye]

Originally Posted by mattybucks

What about a TRF 511, awesome car

Agreed, but they are a bit like rocking horse poo these days!

I bought the B44.1 a few months back and have never been entirely happy with it so am investing in a new model shortly. I also have a Kyosho RB5 which I feel much more at home with, and this combined with watching the FS2's going round Stotfold like they are on rails the last few weeks has swung things in favour of the new FS2 SP for me....

[chris_dono]

I must admit the shocks on the new Kyosho look lovely

[Skye]

They do indeed! Although, I was talking to someone on here the other day who said several of the team drivers actually prefer running it with the smaller bore shocks...

Considering that they are arguably the most significant change between the FS2 and FS2 SP then it could make the FS2 at £310 approx worth a second look.

If you want the big bores then it has to be the FS2 SP as it will cost you more to upgrade at a later date, but if you do what some of the team guys do and stick with the old shocks then the FS2 is looking good value!

[RogerM]

I must admit that when I first started running the big bore shocks they kept being removed to compare with the small bore ones.

The issue with the big bores is lack of setup development time for tracks in this country.

There are a few of us who have puts some serious hours in working out what pistons are required (IMHO the standard pistons aren't suitable for the rear end on our tracks ... I drill to 5 x 1.4 at the moment) and al of us, that I know of, are now in agreement that once you drill the pistons which allows you to move in to the same oil ranges as you would of on the standard velvet shocks the big bores ARE better.

There is a slight issue with front spring selection, basically the combination of our surfaces, track layout styles and tires mean we benefit from a stiffer front spring that exists in the Kyosho / X-gear range. Losi Green/Blue and Yokomo Pink/Green (similar real rates actually) seem to be coming out as favourite.

Start off with a Kyosho / X-gear Red rear spring and your 95% of the way there

All that said if you can get the ZX5-FS2 for around the £300 mark then that represents fantastic value!

[RudeTony]

Originally Posted by Skye

They do indeed! Although, I was talking to someone on here the other day who said several of the team drivers actually prefer running it with the smaller bore shocks...

Considering that they are arguably the most significant change between the FS2 and FS2 SP then it could make the FS2 at £310 approx worth a second look.

If you want the big bores then it has to be the FS2 SP as it will cost you more to upgrade at a later date, but if you do what some of the team guys do and stick with the old shocks then the FS2 is looking good value!

I sort of agree with Rog - when the Big Bores came out it was just about the time of our first National and with little development and set up work many of us at Kyosho went with the velvet shocks only because we knew them. Recently at the Euros in Pau I switched to big bores and lapped a fraction better on dirt. Through the winter I am sure many of us will be working hard on the big bore shocks and I feel confident they will be quick as well as making the car easier to drive - Credit to Nick, Rog and others for staying with them through this season too......