Mazda RX8

[Southwell]

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net

I am suprised at how positive the feedback is to be honest.

I thought there would have been quite a few 'haters' out there.

Ok, they have no torque ..........But that just means you can rev the nuts off it

[jaysllim]

dude if u get one make sure its under 31k on the clock coz the reason they "drink so much oil" is because the centre bearing on the rotor starts to weep and pushes the oil out the back of the mounting and then it will colapse and then engine rebuild. i done three of them wen they first came out. we use diffrent chemicals to the japs in our petrol but the one chemical we do use eats the sheild on the bearing and hence making it seize/colapse. dude dnt want to put a downer on them they are gd cars just wait 6 mounth for them to finish the recall on them.it was a certan batch of bearings and they never concistantly used them just here and there thats y the recall been going on for the last 2 years

[Chris Doughty]

Originally Posted by Southwell

Ok, they have no torque ..........But that just means you can rev the nuts off it

to me, it felt like it has a 12.5mm sintered rotor in it as oposed to a 14mm sintered rotor.

not as much bottom, but rpm to the moon and back... ace!

[Chris Doughty]

I think if I drive it smooth I might be able to get 10 minutes out of a tank... should only need 1 pitstop in a 20 minute main...

[millzy]

Originally Posted by jaysllim

dude if u get one make sure its under 31k on the clock coz the reason they "drink so much oil" is because the centre bearing on the rotor starts to weep and pushes the oil out the back of the mounting and then it will colapse and then engine rebuild. i done three of them wen they first came out. we use diffrent chemicals to the japs in our petrol but the one chemical we do use eats the sheild on the bearing and hence making it seize/colapse. dude dnt want to put a downer on them they are gd cars just wait 6 mounth for them to finish the recall on them.it was a certan batch of bearings and they never concistantly used them just here and there thats y the recall been going on for the last 2 years

your ment to be in Poland

[mark christopher]

in the ford dealer i work in we also do mazda, asked the tecks, good car if you can stand the poor fuel and oil ecconomy, nothing major goes wrong, odd few engines and make sure oil cooler pipes have been done if out off warranty.
they are also a sod for flooding the engine, when it starts you need to get it warm, no stop starting or uve had it

[mark christopher]

double post

[Fiddybux]

I own one...have for nearly 2 years. Ace car. Best drive ever. Never put a foot wrong.

Yes it drinks a bit of oil. Yes it can be thirsty if you drive it properly - you'll get 14mpg - 17mpg ish. If you drive eco style, in low revs, you can easily get 25mpg. This doesn't bother me though. I don't do a huge amount of mileage and its a beautiful machine. The engine sounds and feels lovely.

Very progressive acceleration from the 231bhp engine (don't bother with the 192bhp version - not much different in economy for 1 less gear and less grunt). You get a nice kick at 4500 rpm and 7500 rpm as the injector valves open. Accelerates right up to 9000rpm and it bleeps at 8000rpm to tell you to change gear. Sometimes it feels like it will never stop going! Lovely!! Limited at just below 10000rpm. Limiting is aggressive though as the engine will technically shake itself to bits beyond this point.

RWD like a proper car and so can be "interesting" to drive. Has a very satisfying tuck in from the front-end and push-out from the rear in the bends. Beautiful. Traction control can be turned off too!

It's no match for M5's or Impreza's off the line, but then its not meant to be. This car is quick in the bends and the near perfect 50/50 weight distribution is to thank for that. It's torquey enough not to spoil enjoyment though.

Usual Mazda build quality - nothing to moan about there. Cars hold their value reasonably well too (as well as cars can in this climate).

The only issue that used to be a hinderance is that you had to let it warm up before turning off and this caused problems when just moving the car from cold, e.g. swapping cars on a single lane driveway. Now there is a shut-down procedure for cold engines that you can follow which solves the problem.

The final issue is road tax. Mine is £400 this year and will be £440 next year. If you can get over this then go for it. The way I look at it is this is one of the last chances average people will have at owning a sporty car, before the government and green police make it impossibly unaffordable to do so. This is why I bought the RX8 - so I can live the dream while its still possible to do so.

The new RX8 has slightly improved fuel economy and a face lift - looks even sweeter but is obviosuly expensive (25k ish from new??).

Rumour has it that there will be an RX9 by 2012 or so...maybe I'll have to get one of them. Looks amasing.

http://www.nextautos.com/body-styles...012-mazda-rx-9

This is supposed to be based partly on the fricking sweet Mazda Furai!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oEOHn7rspsk

Oh finally, check out the Top Gear review of the RX-8. This is what swung it for me. I thought, Clarkson rarely approves of an affordable car, so I went for it on his recommendation.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QRiPSlx8PxA

Don't listen to him concerning the "fussy" styling though. He's wrong there.

[Fiddybux]

Originally Posted by mark christopher

in the ford dealer i work in we also do mazda, asked the tecks, good car if you can stand the poor fuel and oil ecconomy, nothing major goes wrong, odd few engines and make sure oil cooler pipes have been done if out off warranty.
they are also a sod for flooding the engine, when it starts you need to get it warm, no stop starting or uve had it

Not correct. If you observe the shut down procedure its fine.

[Chris Doughty]

I have read about the 'cold' shutdown procedure and it all makes sense.

thanks for the long informative post Fiddy

I am also aware of the 'improved' oil cooling pipes and a few other revised parts that really should be in place.

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Fiddybux

I own one...have for nearly 2 years. Ace car. Best drive ever. Never put a foot wrong.

Yes it drinks a bit of oil. Yes it can be thirsty if you drive it properly - you'll get 14mpg - 17mpg ish. If you drive eco style, in low revs, you can easily get 25mpg. This doesn't bother me though. I don't do a huge amount of mileage and its a beautiful machine. The engine sounds and feels lovely.

Very progressive acceleration from the 231bhp engine (don't bother with the 192bhp version - not much different in economy for 1 less gear and less grunt). You get a nice kick at 4500 rpm and 7500 rpm as the injector valves open. Accelerates right up to 9000rpm and it bleeps at 8000rpm to tell you to change gear. Sometimes it feels like it will never stop going! Lovely!! Limited at just below 10000rpm. Limiting is aggressive though as the engine will technically shake itself to bits beyond this point.

RWD like a proper car and so can be "interesting" to drive. Has a very satisfying tuck in from the front-end and push-out from the rear in the bends. Beautiful. Traction control can be turned off too!

It's no match for M5's or Impreza's off the line, but then its not meant to be. This car is quick in the bends and the near perfect 50/50 weight distribution is to thank for that. It's torquey enough not to spoil enjoyment though.

Usual Mazda build quality - nothing to moan about there. Cars hold their value reasonably well too (as well as cars can in this climate).

The only issue that used to be a hinderance is that you had to let it warm up before turning off and this caused problems when just moving the car from cold, e.g. swapping cars on a single lane driveway. Now there is a shut-down procedure for cold engines that you can follow which solves the problem.

The final issue is road tax. Mine is £400 this year and will be £440 next year. If you can get over this then go for it. The way I look at it is this is one of the last chances average people will have at owning a sporty car, before the government and green police make it impossibly unaffordable to do so. This is why I bought the RX8 - so I can live the dream while its still possible to do so.

The new RX8 has slightly improved fuel economy and a face lift - looks even sweeter but is obviosuly expensive (25k ish from new??).

Rumour has it that there will be an RX9 by 2012 or so...maybe I'll have to get one of them. Looks amasing.

http://www.nextautos.com/body-styles...012-mazda-rx-9

This is supposed to be based partly on the fricking sweet Mazda Furai!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oEOHn7rspsk

Oh finally, check out the Top Gear review of the RX-8. This is what swung it for me. I thought, Clarkson rarely approves of an affordable car, so I went for it on his recommendation.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QRiPSlx8PxA

Don't listen to him concerning the "fussy" styling though. He's wrong there.

so how do you switch of your TC stage one or two?

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Fiddybux

Not correct. If you observe the shut down procedure its fine.

and 9 out of ten owners dont do it! or know of it. if not done i am correct and they flood and dont start!!


some more info

older models the right engine mount can colapse, causing bad cabin vibration

make sure pcm is on latest calibration.

on 6 speed (high power models) thier are axle hieght sensors (£400 plus) each which can seize up

if clutch is stiff will need new clutch

[Chris Doughty]

Originally Posted by mark christopher

so how do you switch of your TC stage one or two?

I know how to do both.... and I don't even have one yet

[Lee]

Originally Posted by mark christopher

so how do you switch of your TC stage one or two?

Is this a quiz?

[Chris Doughty]

Mark - do you have any good second hander RX8's in at the moment?

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Lee

Is this a quiz?

Nope the "how" is not meant to be there, trying to do 2 things at once dread to think what message ive sent to fmc technical lol

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net

Mark - do you have any good second hander RX8's in at the moment?

several, sales are doing me a list of what we got with specs etc. you at worksop sunday?

[Chris Doughty]

cool...

how far away are you? whats the postcode?

[James]

Hi Chris,

I had one on test drive 3 and a bit years ago when i bought the beema..

Both engines go well, they use a lot of fuel and a fair bit of oil im told, theyre kinda half practical and depreciated like a stone so from that point of view im glad i didnt buy one - However this does mean there will be some available at decent money now..Oh it handed really nicely too..

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net

cool...

how far away are you? whats the postcode?

you at worksop sunday?

www.ringways.co.uk got few more than on web site to near new

[Chris Doughty]

thanks James, thats exactly my reason for looking at them.

they have 4 seats and yet still a 'sports' car
its RWD
its sounds ace
they are a very good price for what they are right now (second hand ones)

and the I filled up yesterday and only paid 99.9p It was 118.9 at one point