Lazer zxr

[Welshy40]

Just been and got new shock oil, tyres and inserts from Stockton Modeller. So will have them sorted next week whilst I'm away. They had a ZX-S in the window but the body looks a lot lower than the ZX-R. I can see why they are a tight fit.

Looking forward to getting the car sorted, Fibre - Lyte are only at Stokesley so thats not far from me either, so may get a rear shock mount from them at some point.

Isobarik, sounds good, I haven't got kids yet but I know I'll be like that some day.

What zxs? Are you on about the zxr sport or the one i have and iso have pictured. If a zxs does it have black yz10 wheels and with a three piece chassis? If yes thats one i sold ages back.

[bignick]

Not sure about the chassis and wheels, it had a big black wing and think it was white/blakc/blue shell, was smart looking.

[Welshy40]

Not sure about the chassis and wheels, it had a big black wing and think it was white/blakc/blue shell, was smart looking.

Well if its a ZXS the going rate for a standard one is £400. :thumbsup:

[rondoolaa]

i'm the same, my son likes his rc cars and i've also purchased him lots of spares for all his cars and he hasnt broke anything either yet, well except the front arm brace when he hit my foot at full power....ouch!

he has an ftx blaze and a lrp shark and a team associated b4,

i have 3 lrp sharks, 1 lazer zx-5 with a milled atomic carbon chassis (1 of only 2 milled ones ever made) and 2 (so far) zxr's...

[Welshy40]

Sooner rather than later be prepared for a serious but wipping by your young un, may as well be prepared.

[bignick]

The ZX-S was £190, looked like new and was in the front window. Maybe it could have been a ZX-5? Think I may be getting confused....:confused:

[rondoolaa]

can someone (if anyone has it) post a pic of a tomcat shell on a lazer.....

also is there a lot of cutting involved to get it to fit a lazer as i'm not that good at cutting...

thanks for any pics and replies

[Welshy40]

can someone (if anyone has it) post a pic of a tomcat shell on a lazer.....

also is there a lot of cutting involved to get it to fit a lazer as i'm not that good at cutting...

thanks for any pics and replies

Picture coming hopefully within two weeks. The picture will be used on the Kamtec website as well, just have to wait for customblitz to finish the job.

Yes its a hard job to make it fit as the shell wasnt designed for the Lazer so is a lot of working out the areas you need to cut out. No cutting lines for the gear cover so you need to be patient.

[Ema]

can someone (if anyone has it) post a pic of a tomcat shell on a lazer.....

also is there a lot of cutting involved to get it to fit a lazer as i'm not that good at cutting...

thanks for any pics and replies

No problem, everything is on this thread :thumbsup: !!

Original Parma Tomcat painted:
http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=360781&postcount=676

Kamtec first repro, not painted:
http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=410943&postcount=941

Bye
Ema

[rondoolaa]

thankyou welshy and ema for the replies

[bignick]

I like the look of the tomcat shell. Nice looking and definately one to consider due to the bad reviews of the tbg shell.

I'll keeping my eye on the kamtec website.

[isobarik]

I think i have to try an TBG shell im gone order an shell for my second rc10 anyway.

Im going to use it on my daughters zxr that soon will be ready missing an shell and some carbon parts but i have ordered those.

Yeah i know they say that they are bad but people do learn whats wrong and usually fix it, i hope.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

You guys should know me by now, im a bit of a perfectionist and the items that I get made tend to be better than the originals. The shell is a stunner but Keith will uopdate his site as soon as I get my shell back from my painter.

Also I should be getting another spur gear proto type in the post soon, with not only the ball holes but with the B44 or B4 hexes on either side as well. I also think I may have an answer for EMA as well on this, use the ZX slipper system as the metal plates should have a bigger contact area so I will try and update.

[isobarik]

Welsh just realized that i havent sended the package with belts.
Shall just get some sleep ( working the night shift ) and then head to town.

mvh Isobarik

[Ema]

You guys should know me by now, im a bit of a perfectionist and the items that I get made tend to be better than the originals. The shell is a stunner but Keith will uopdate his site as soon as I get my shell back from my painter.

Also I should be getting another spur gear proto type in the post soon, with not only the ball holes but with the B44 or B4 hexes on either side as well. I also think I may have an answer for EMA as well on this, use the ZX slipper system as the metal plates should have a bigger contact area so I will try and update.

Great job Welshy ... as always :thumbsup: !!!

Bye
Ema

[Welshy40]

Welsh just realized that i havent sended the package with belts.
Shall just get some sleep ( working the night shift ) and then head to town.

mvh Isobarik

Cool, no rush mate I know I will get them eventually. :thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

Well the second prototype has come through in the post today and I have fitted this to a standard Lazer ZX slipper, obviously without the balls and instead with clean plates on either side of the hex pads and will test tomorrow night. I may opt for the ZXR Mk1 slipper if the ZX one isn't up for the job.

Ema, it fits nicely as you can see and the contact surface is more than the standard ZXR hyper clutch so should be up to the job.

I will update on Friday on what I have tested. :thumbsup:

[rondoolaa]

That looks wicked. If it works ok will it be going into some kind of production or is it a one off. Great how it uses parts more available than zx parts

[Welshy40]

That looks wicked. If it works ok will it be going into some kind of production or is it a one off. Great how it uses parts more available than zx parts

Ron, when i am happy then it will be available from RW Racing. But needs proper testing in the zx and zxr slipper systems before that can happen. Yes the use of an associated slipper pad system is because i burn out the standard kyosho pads so are not up to the job and hope that my design works so zero burn outs happen.

[Ema]

Well the second prototype has come through in the post today and I have fitted this to a standard Lazer ZX slipper, obviously without the balls and instead with clean plates on either side of the hex pads and will test tomorrow night. I may opt for the ZXR Mk1 slipper if the ZX one isn't up for the job.

Ema, it fits nicely as you can see and the contact surface is more than the standard ZXR hyper clutch so should be up to the job.

I will update on Friday on what I have tested. :thumbsup:

A W E S O M E :thumbsup: !!!!
It looks superb and I really hope it works great ;).

Let us know how it works :drool:
Bye
Ema

[isobarik]

Welsh nice one there should be ok to run that....

mvh Isobarik

[rondoolaa]

does anyone know what size bearings are used in the slipper in the pic below???, as i have a couple of bearings missing...

[Ema]

Associated just released some new slipper pads designed for the Lazer Whelsy slipper ..... :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:
Thanks Associated :thumbsup: !!!

http://www.redrc.net/2011/04/associated-high-torque-slipper-pads/

New slipper pads
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/210/assoslipperpads.jpg


Old slipper pads
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3489/9603md.jpg

[Ema]

does anyone know what size bearings are used in the slipper in the pic below???, as i have a couple of bearings missing...

I think that the standard bearings are fine, did you check the user manual ?
Otherwise we need more details ;).

Bye
Ema

[oli4ke]

I think that the standard bearings are fine, did you check the user manual ?
Otherwise we need more details ;).

Bye
Ema

The big ones are 8x14 x4mm

[oli4ke]

Associated just released some new slipper pads designed for the Lazer Whelsy slipper ..... :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:
Thanks Associated :thumbsup: !!!

http://www.redrc.net/2011/04/associated-high-torque-slipper-pads/

New slipper pads
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/210/assoslipperpads.jpg


Old slipper pads
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3489/9603md.jpg


Those slipper pads work only with the standard ZX-R? not the ZX-RR right Ema.....:confused:

[Welshy40]

Those slipper pads work only with the standard ZX-R? not the ZX-RR right Ema.....:confused:

Correct, if using a hyper clutch then the pads wont work. If using the zx slipper with the metal plates and my spur gear then it works really well and i tested that exact set up last night.

The zxr mk1 slipper should work with the newer designed slipper pads for the B4 and my spur so looks like my designing has finished.

The hyper clutch csn use my design spur gear as well but just cant use the slipper pads from the B4.

[oli4ke]

Ron, when i am happy then it will be available from RW Racing. But needs proper testing in the zx and zxr slipper systems before that can happen. Yes the use of an associated slipper pad system is because i burn out the standard kyosho pads so are not up to the job and hope that my design works so zero burn outs happen.

James, Let me know when it's available at RW Racing!
Cheers mate!!!

[oli4ke]

Correct, if using a hyper clutch then the pads wont work. If using the zx slipper with the metal plates and my spur gear then it works really well and i tested that exact set up last night.

The zxr mk1 slipper should work with the newer designed slipper pads for the B4 and my spur so looks like my designing has finished.

The hyper clutch csn use my design spur gear as well but just cant use the slipper pads from the B4.

You are a genius!:thumbsup:

[rondoolaa]

Correct, if using a hyper clutch then the pads wont work. If using the zx slipper with the metal plates and my spur gear then it works really well and i tested that exact set up last night.

The zxr mk1 slipper should work with the newer designed slipper pads for the B4 and my spur so looks like my designing has finished.

The hyper clutch csn use my design spur gear as well but just cant use the slipper pads from the B4.

excelent work welshy40,

cant wait for them to be made so i can ring neil and order the spur...

:-)

[Welshy40]

You are a genius!:thumbsup:

Cheers dude, another one to add to my zx/zxr design list.

[isobarik]

Was going to show you my dughters new carpet ride but couldnt upload the pics due to the server was down.

well you have to paint it by imagination.

Composite Craft chassi

Fiberlyte shock towers

Equalizer shocks

Technacraft turnbuckles old style with an hole in them.

ZXR Slipper with spring instead of washers.

Things to mount is

Blue steering, fiberlyte upperdeck and move over the electronics from the XLS.

I have ordered an ZXR body for it from bluegroove. I´ll guess that it will be not white and have an not broken wing since that was the compaints on the XLS.

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

Found the right composite craft sheet so will make an matching upper deck.

Otherwise look at this nice looking alu stuff in the front/rear

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kyosho-Lazer-zxr-/110680302506?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item19c50f63aa

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

For now my daughters NEW carpet racer look like this.

http://proxy1.pixbox.se/arkivet/synligt_33/32360000-32369999/640x480/32364381.jpg?0

Feautering all the abow stuff and som 3000mah batteries just for show.
This could actually been run if it had some electronics.
Shall order som screws from rc screws they have an complete set for the zxr.

mvh Isobarik

[Ema]

For now my daughters NEW carpet racer look like this.

Feautering all the abow stuff and som 3000mah batteries just for show.
This could actually been run if it had some electronics.
Shall order som screws from rc screws they have an complete set for the zxr.

mvh Isobarik

Really nice :thumbsup: !!!

Bye
Ema

[isobarik]

Really nice :thumbsup: !!!

Bye
Ema

thanks i had som complaints from her that the xls was not as good looking as she wanted it to be

http://proxy1.pixbox.se/arkivet/synligt_36/32160000-32169999/640x480/32167670.jpg?0

the wing had some cracks and it looked funny due too fiberglass chassi and the 32 pitch gears makes some funny noises:thumbsup: i think it look rather okay

Well this lazer has her aprovall (spelling) shall get some foams for it so it will be ready for the next years indoor running and some paint for the body when it gets here.


mvh Isobarik

[oli4ke]

For now my daughters NEW carpet racer look like this.

http://proxy1.pixbox.se/arkivet/synligt_33/32360000-32369999/640x480/32364381.jpg?0

Feautering all the abow stuff and som 3000mah batteries just for show.
This could actually been run if it had some electronics.
Shall order som screws from rc screws they have an complete set for the zxr.

mvh Isobarik

Looks awesome Henrik!!!
FYI: The screwkit from RC screws is bad quality and incomplete ! As they say it's complete but actually some screws etc are NOT in the kit!

[isobarik]

oli have you bought the kit for the lazer zxr ????
What was missing.
mvh Isobarik

[rondoolaa]

For now my daughters NEW carpet racer look like this.

http://proxy1.pixbox.se/arkivet/synligt_33/32360000-32369999/640x480/32364381.jpg?0

Feautering all the abow stuff and som 3000mah batteries just for show.
This could actually been run if it had some electronics.
Shall order som screws from rc screws they have an complete set for the zxr.

mvh Isobarik

nice car, where did you buy the carbon top deck if its not original and the carbon bit at the top of rear gearbox on opposite side to the slipper, above where the top shaft comes out

[isobarik]

Ron

The upperdeck and the brace are from fiberlyte.

http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/

mvh isobarik

[rondoolaa]

Ron

The upperdeck and the brace are from fiberlyte.

http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/

mvh isobarik

thankyou

[oli4ke]

oli have you bought the kit for the lazer zxr ????
What was missing.
mvh Isobarik

Yes I did buddy, Some washers, nuts and screws were missing!:mad:
Basicly the kit is not complete as they say on their website.....

[isobarik]

Yes I did buddy, Some washers, nuts and screws were missing!:mad:
Basicly the kit is not complete as they say on there website.....

I think i can live with that but would have been good if they where full but hey the different versions of the lazer dont use the same amount of screws.

mvh isobarik

[oli4ke]

I think i can live with that but would have been good if they where full but hey the different versions of the lazer dont use the same amount of screws.

mvh isobarik

On the end the kit did the job do....:lol:

[isobarik]

On the end the kit did the job do....:lol:

They are all hex heads ???
any pix ???
mvh Isobarik

[oli4ke]

They are all hex heads ???
any pix ???
mvh Isobarik

Not all screws are hex! Most of them....
I will add some pics from the car and screws tonight!

[oli4ke]

Enclosed some pix Henrik, if you need more just let me know mate!!

[isobarik]

Looks nice and the long gearbox screws are there and so are the big upperdeck screws looking good shall order asap.

mvh Isobarik

[Ema]

Enclosed some pix Henrik, if you need more just let me know mate!!

Rpm ball cups, associated ball studs, gold alum nuts ..... sounds familiar :woot: !!!
Great job mate !!!!

Bye
Ema

[oli4ke]

Looks nice and the long gearbox screws are there and so are the big upperdeck screws looking good shall order asap.

mvh Isobarik

The long screws were missing first:mad: I claimed this and they have send them without any problems.
Please note I did't used the standard long screws from the kit, I ordered other ones on ebay (see link) the original screws are also hex but "flat headed"

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/M3-x-45-STAINLESS-ALLEN-BOLT-CAP-SCREW-10-10-EX-FREE-/320543076830?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&hash=item4aa1db31de

I guess you need 3 of those for the ZX-RR or 2 for the ZX-R, if you want them please PM me your address and QTY needed and I will ship them to you free of charge!

[oli4ke]

Rpm ball cups, associated ball studs, gold alum nuts ..... sounds familiar :woot: !!!
Great job mate !!!!

Bye
Ema

LOL EMA:D BUT the RPM ball cups are a different color then yours aren't they :blush::p
Thanks buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rondoolaa]

Found the right composite craft sheet so will make an matching upper deck.

Otherwise look at this nice looking alu stuff in the front/rear

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kyosho-Lazer-zxr-/110680302506?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item19c50f63aa

mvh Isobarik

:D :D

[Welshy40]

You guys crack me up. I used the blue rpm ball cups with associated ball joints in the 90s plus used silver stainless stell screw sets as they dont bend or snap easily unlike the rest. Also allen key screws preferably all one size as this aided in quick maintenance. Im going to post some pics this weekend.

[isobarik]

:D :D

Did you win ???? looked good.

mvh isobarik

[rondoolaa]

Did you win ???? looked good.

mvh isobarik

i did, :D




omg, did you see the price the tub chassis went for, i put a bid in, not knowing what it was worth and it quadrupled my bid easily, lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/300551907559?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80% 2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l131 3%26_nkw%3D300551907559%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_500wt_1156

[isobarik]

Well got some parts yesterday and builded a bit to day some parts are still missing but they are on its way.

Fitted the VZW-010 these are alu hexes with an rubber o-ring to hold the pin in place before these came i used the LAW-30.
The vzw-010 are an straight fit and needs no shiming prefer these over the LAW-30. Front driveshafts are LA232 65.5mm. Front using LA219.04

http://proxy1.pixbox.se/arkivet/synligt_35/32360000-32369999/640x480/32368696.jpg?0

Since th VZW-010 came in a st of 4 i also mounted those in the rears.
Drive shaft in the rear are UM510.01 62.5 bones with LA231.02 axles
Rear hub is SP107H

http://proxy1.pixbox.se/arkivet/synligt_35/32360000-32369999/640x480/32368699.jpg?0

Here is an over view so whats missing then front turnbuckles for steering and i have not mounted the shocks since i im missing some shock bushing for the LOSi shocks that i have decided to use. I have bought some Trinity shockbushings in alu so they are on theire way. Will replace the ball at the shock end with some kyosho dito due to the losi one is a bit to big and its easy to replace it. i have also mounted the good looking spidey battery bars that are shorter and fit the chassi.

http://proxy1.pixbox.se/arkivet/synligt_35/32360000-32369999/640x480/32368697.jpg?0

hope you like it

mvh isobarik

[isobarik]

i did, :D




omg, did you see the price the tub chassis went for, i put a bid in, not knowing what it was worth and it quadrupled my bid easily, lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/300551907559?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80% 2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l131 3%26_nkw%3D300551907559%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_500wt_1156

Damn those tubs are sexy.......:D

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

Welsh
can you email me the zxs manual. its something wrong with mine.

Never mind found an backup.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Iso will do when i get a chance tomorrow.

Re tub chassi, gutted i didnt copy right it as they made a lot, still there is still only one with cell holes in the world that was designed by me and still searching for it. Best chassi i ever had. Im going to have a new one made by fibre and based on the original and still the best design.

Zxs looking good, unsure why your using losi shocks when they didnt come on the evo.

[rondoolaa]

Did you win ???? looked good.

mvh isobarik

just thought i'd post pics of what i got..

[rondoolaa]

and some more


everything in this post and the last post cost me £57 + postage

[Mulson]

Jeeeeezzzooooo, I have just lost the last two days of my life to this one thread.

I kind of unexpectedly stumbled upon this thread and was frankly a little amazed at the amount of interest and demand there still is for the Lazer, particularly as I have owned one and let it sit in my garage for the last 10 years without turning a wheel.

I still have all of the kit I owned and abandoned when I gave the hobby up when I got to the late teens stage of losing interest in model cars, and gaining interest in alcohol, real cars and females. :D

I have posted some pictures below of my once beloved ZX/ZX-R. I used it both On-Road (Tarmac, Wide-Bodied 10th Scale at Stonehaven, Scotland) and Off-Road (Club & National level.) Not with a great deal of success it has to be said.

I have taken these photos as it has come straight out the garage, dust included. Didnt want to tamper with it until I know what I am going to do with it.

After reading this thread I have a massive urge to fully restore it and upgrade it and use it as a runner but I am not sure if I have the time or the money to bring it up to a more modern competitive standard. Bearing in mind I have not touched a car in ten years and when I was racing I had the old man to do all the bits I never really understood fully :D.

I will mull it over the next couple of days.

Let me know what you guys think.

[Mulson]

Just a few more.

[rondoolaa]

nice man nice, loads of spares, and the chassis, :drool: wow, seen one of those chassis reach £87 last week, you know you wanna do it up and race it, either that or sell the lot to me for 100 quid, lol ;)

[kek23k]

He's got a tub chassis! Kill him!!!!!

Nice car and welcome to the Lazer zone, don't stay too long or you will end up being iso's bitch :Px

[Welshy40]

Hey guys even iso is my bitch.

Nice car and welcome to the club. If you do decide to sell that chassis let me know first as i designed the very first. This car is still a better performer than the current kyosho car so if fitted with a brushless 6.5 or 5.5 and geared correctly you will easily stay with the newer models. Belts, layshaft pulley gears and front gearboxes as spares are all you should need as spares. Any help just ask. Oh yeah the radiocontrolzone has an even larger thread and has much more info to help you.

[Nick Goodall]

Just a few more.

I reckon you're losing track of time saying it was 10 years ago :-) Scary to think but if you count back I bet you're talking more like 15/16 years ago! The ZX-R was around from about 92-94 really so i bet you'll find it was more then 10 haha.

[Mulson]

I think you are right, when I think back I had a worlds YZ-10 for a few years and I think my dad used the Lazer when I switched! One of the books in the photos above has about 30 set-up sheets and all are dated as '95, I was only 11, I can barely make out my hand-writing lol

[Mulson]

Hey guys even iso is my bitch.

Nice car and welcome to the club. If you do decide to sell that chassis let me know first as i designed the very first. This car is still a better performer than the current kyosho car so if fitted with a brushless 6.5 or 5.5 and geared correctly you will easily stay with the newer models. Belts, layshaft pulley gears and front gearboxes as spares are all you should need as spares. Any help just ask. Oh yeah the radiocontrolzone has an even larger thread and has much more info to help you.

Thanks Welshy, I have read alot of what you have written throughout this forum and also at radiocontrolzone and appreciate the time and effort you have put into helping others. That goes for all other enthusiasts who have devoted time to the forums.

Grovelling over.......... now I might need some help. :D

Decided to keep it and make it beautiful.

To be fair when I was racing I was a bit of a novice in terms of building and maintaining the cars so I will be kind of learning as I go along and I may get lost a little in the terminology.

In terms of the main parts you recommend I would need as spares whats "layshaft pulley gears"? Are these the gears housed within the centre diff that lay on the same shaft as the slipper? Part No's if possible?

I have two spare front belts, however I think both have been used but a a new rear one.

I dont have any front gearboxe cases, the one on the car does look brand new mind you.

Parts I would like to get for starters:-

Carbon (Fibre-lyte), it would be a shame to not compliment the tub chassis with some shiny new carbon: -

Top-deck (ZX Instone Version - Deck One)
Front Mount (ZX Instone Version - Mount One)
Rear Mount (ZX Instone Version - Mount One)
Steering Linkage (ZX - Brace One)
Replace all the turnbuckles, ball cups etc.

Is there anything I need to consider, having the tub chassis, that would be different to what I have read so far on the thread.

The car has carbon battery stays for saddle Nimhs, I can only guess I am going to have to modify them or replace them in order to fit Lipo's. Hope this wont mean I have to drill the chassis.

I don't know if from the pictures I have taken if you can tell if I have the Hyper Clutch or not?

What shocks do I have fitted? I cannot see anything from photos of other Lazers that resemble them. I have the original gold shocks that were set-up for on-road that I will re-build but would you suggest updating these?

Any suggestions on how I go about replacing all of the screw/bolts as you have done for hex? I can't imagine anyone supplying these as a kit, did you just work your way through the car picking up bits as you went along?

To be honest I have spent so long trudging through the forums that I have lost track of most things and trying to find bits you remember you need is difficult.

Sorry for all the questions.

[Welshy40]

Good news, well here goes my help. Manual is available on
http://www.retromodelisme.com/liste_manuel.html with part numbers so LA11 is the layshaft gear (where the slipper and one way are attached to above the motor)

Rear belts are sold by another company and Iso knows the name, they are on Ebay and still sell them listed as the same number as in the manual. LA12 or LA13 i think

Well if thats the case for the gear box at least you have the alloy pivot blocks. I would recommend buying another front tower but hold fire on that until I have had a chance to redesign the handle half circle one to give it more strength.

Parts I would like to get for starters:-

Carbon (Fibre-lyte), it would be a shame to not compliment the tub chassis with some shiny new carbon: -

Top-deck (ZX Instone Version - Deck One) - may not be appropriate for your chassis, so would advise using the standard ZXR one.
Front Mount (ZX Instone Version - Mount One) Shock tower?
Rear Mount (ZX Instone Version - Mount One) [B]Shock Tower?
Steering Linkage (ZX - Brace One) [B]YES the best one in my opinion.
Replace all the turnbuckles, ball cups etc. Associated ball joints and lunsford titanium are the better option.

Is there anything I need to consider, having the tub chassis, that would be different to what I have read so far on the thread.

Tub chassis is heavier and will give you more roll so may not suit your style of driving. I made it work as I designed it for my style of driving and to protect my esc from Jason Green but may not suit you. If you don't like then try the flat chassis as that may suit you more.

The car has carbon battery stays for saddle Nimhs, I can only guess I am going to have to modify them or replace them in order to fit Lipo's. Hope this wont mean I have to drill the chassis. Nope not much you will need to do just make sure they are holding the Lipos firmly to the chassis. I designed a Lipo tray for the ZXR so hope Stephen at fibrelyte has done the design already fro the standard chassis.

I don't know if from the pictures I have taken if you can tell if I have the Hyper Clutch or not? Mk1 ZXR Lazer slipper clutch. I have just design a new spur gear that would fit that and RW racing are now starting to make them, and work on all ZX and ZXR slipper systems.

What shocks do I have fitted? I cannot see anything from photos of other Lazers that resemble them. I have the original gold shocks that were set-up for on-road that I will re-build but would you suggest updating these? Shocks re equalizer kyosho shocks and are superb, so I would rebuild them and change the seals but other than that bugger else you will need to do to them. They use the same seals as the ZX-5.

Any suggestions on how I go about replacing all of the screw/bolts as you have done for hex? Apex models sell the screws so work out the length and call them. Stainless steel silver hex headed screws.
I can't imagine anyone supplying these as a kit, did you just work your way through the car picking up bits as you went along? I did one task at a time and the screws were the easy job. One screw head means I can change my rear belt in five minutes flat, and have done this in front of several witnesses so makes maintenance easier with a bigger head.

To be honest I have spent so long trudging through the forums that I have lost track of most things and trying to find bits you remember you need is difficult.

Sorry for all the questions.[/QUOTE] Bring em on!!

[rondoolaa]

Welshy, is the la11 available to buy anywhere or a repo made anywhere?

As far as I remember all them years back the 2 gears in the la11 were ok, it was just the 2 other bits that used to wear,

Parts that look like flanged washers made out of plastic or whatever material it is, I think I went through at least 2 sets in about a year

[Welshy40]

Welshy, is the la11 available to buy anywhere or a repo made anywhere?

As far as I remember all them years back the 2 gears in the la11 were ok, it was just the 2 other bits that used to wear,

Parts that look like flanged washers made out of plastic or whatever material it is, I think I went through at least 2 sets in about a year

They are very rare but do appear on ebay occassionally and my friend who makes them for me is so busy that even he cant make any at the mo. Im talking to him today hopefully and will ask if there is any way he can make a batch and sell on. I will ask as well re the front gearbox as well.

The actual gear wears as when the belt deteriorates so does that. The washer part is fine so long as its fitted on correctly as per the manual. Also possible that there was slop in the layshaft bearing housing in your car hence why that happened.

[Welshy40]

Mulson, what shock towers are you on about as i cant answer the question until i know the exact ones.

[Mulson]

Mulson, what shock towers are you on about as i cant answer the question until i know the exact ones.

On the Fibre-Lyte website, under ZX-James Instone Version, they are described as 'Front Mount 1' and 'Read Mount 1', although I did mean shock towers in my last post.

To be honest, I don't mind which ones I get, tell me the best and I will get them.

[Welshy40]

On the Fibre-Lyte website, under ZX-James Instone Version, they are described as 'Front Mount 1' and 'Read Mount 1', although I did mean shock towers in my last post.

To be honest, I don't mind which ones I get, tell me the best and I will get them.

Those are the ones I used and are great. But hold fire on the front as the front bottom beam needs changing as its not wide enough so will get this done in the next week.

[oli4ke]

Thanks Welshy, I have read alot of what you have written throughout this forum and also at radiocontrolzone and appreciate the time and effort you have put into helping others. That goes for all other enthusiasts who have devoted time to the forums.

Grovelling over.......... now I might need some help. :D

Decided to keep it and make it beautiful.

To be fair when I was racing I was a bit of a novice in terms of building and maintaining the cars so I will be kind of learning as I go along and I may get lost a little in the terminology.

In terms of the main parts you recommend I would need as spares whats "layshaft pulley gears"? Are these the gears housed within the centre diff that lay on the same shaft as the slipper? Part No's if possible?

I have two spare front belts, however I think both have been used but a a new rear one.

I dont have any front gearboxe cases, the one on the car does look brand new mind you.

Parts I would like to get for starters:-

Carbon (Fibre-lyte), it would be a shame to not compliment the tub chassis with some shiny new carbon: -

Top-deck (ZX Instone Version - Deck One)
Front Mount (ZX Instone Version - Mount One)
Rear Mount (ZX Instone Version - Mount One)
Steering Linkage (ZX - Brace One)
Replace all the turnbuckles, ball cups etc.

Is there anything I need to consider, having the tub chassis, that would be different to what I have read so far on the thread.

The car has carbon battery stays for saddle Nimhs, I can only guess I am going to have to modify them or replace them in order to fit Lipo's. Hope this wont mean I have to drill the chassis.

I don't know if from the pictures I have taken if you can tell if I have the Hyper Clutch or not?

What shocks do I have fitted? I cannot see anything from photos of other Lazers that resemble them. I have the original gold shocks that were set-up for on-road that I will re-build but would you suggest updating these?

Any suggestions on how I go about replacing all of the screw/bolts as you have done for hex? I can't imagine anyone supplying these as a kit, did you just work your way through the car picking up bits as you went along?

To be honest I have spent so long trudging through the forums that I have lost track of most things and trying to find bits you remember you need is difficult.

Sorry for all the questions.

Nice car that you have Mulson :woot::drool:

As mentioned by James, links ebay front and rear belt below :D

front
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Vintage-Kyosho-LAZER-ZX-ZX-R-Front-belt-replace-LA13-/270691875992?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f067e3c98

rear
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Vintage-Kyosho-LAZER-ZX-ZX-R-Rear-belt-replace-LA12-/270691876753?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f067e3f91

[oli4ke]

[QUOTE=Welshy40;501275]

Any suggestions on how I go about replacing all of the screw/bolts as you have done for hex? Apex models sell the screws so work out the length and call them. Stainless steel silver hex headed screws.
I can't imagine anyone supplying these as a kit, did you just work your way through the car picking up bits as you went along? I did one task at a time and the screws were the easy job. One screw head means I can change my rear belt in five minutes flat, and have done this in front of several witnesses so makes maintenance easier with a bigger head.


YES they do, there is a screw kit for the ZX-R!

check this out
http://www.rcscrewz.com/product_info.php/p/kyo013-kyosho-lazer-zx-r-vintage-stainless-steel-screw-kit/products_id/604

I used this screw kit on my lazer ZX-RR AND I can tell you this kit is not perfect but it's doing the job!
Pictures of my ZX-RR you can find in my previous posts.

[oosh123]

Hi Guys,

I am looking for the Lazer ZX body, undertray, and wing (LA-36). I have asked Kamtec already and they are only doing Lazer ZX-S bodies now.

Does anybody know where I can find a set? Or an alternative body? Will the ZX-5 Body fit the Lazer ZX?

Thanks in Advance.

[oli4ke]

Hi Guys,

I am looking for the Lazer ZX body, undertray, and wing (LA-36). I have asked Kamtec already and they are only doing Lazer ZX-S bodies now.

Does anybody know where I can find a set? Or an alternative body? Will the ZX-5 Body fit the Lazer ZX?

Thanks in Advance.

Hi Alan,

There is a guy in your country that makes some ZX repro body's, undertray and wing.
The guys name on ebay is teambluegroove and I recently bought an ZX-R shell and I must say the quality was improved than in the beginning!

[oosh123]

I notice him on ebay before, but I only see a ZX-R body that he is selling. I don't see any ZX bodies

[oli4ke]

I notice him on ebay before, but I only see a ZX-R body that he is selling. I don't see any ZX bodies

Apparently he is temporary out of business, but I can assure you that he can make some ZX bodyshell, undertray and wing.
My kyosho lazer ZX avatar that you can see is the repro body from Jonathan = teambluegroove!:thumbsup:

[bignick]

Just an update on my ZX-R.

I have installed new tyres and inserts, overhauled the shocks and tidied up the wiring.

Hopefully this week I'll install the new bearings (I got a set for the ZX-5 from ebay - the blue ones) and have got some new ball ends to go on too.

Will post some pics once that is all sorted. Then it will be just a new body.....kinda want a parma tomcat one but Kamtec website hasn't been updated in a while so the tbg one is looking more appealing.

[bignick]

Just been on ebay, the parma tomcat shell is on there..... :eh?:

Will get myself one of them then.....:)

[oli4ke]

Just been on ebay, the parma tomcat shell is on there..... :eh?:

Will get myself one of them then.....:)

Correct is on ebay for several weeks already :D

[Welshy40]

Just an update on my ZX-R.

I have installed new tyres and inserts, overhauled the shocks and tidied up the wiring.

Hopefully this week I'll install the new bearings (I got a set for the ZX-5 from ebay - the blue ones) and have got some new ball ends to go on too.

Will post some pics once that is all sorted. Then it will be just a new body.....kinda want a parma tomcat one but Kamtec website hasn't been updated in a while so the tbg one is looking more appealing.

Call kamtec and ask for one and you will be sold it. They are waiting on me for the picture for them to update their website.

[isobarik]

Just 3 hours left.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KYOSHO-VINTAGE-LA-52-LAZER-ZX-R-BUGGY-BODYSHELL-NEW-/200606047817?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item2eb50d5e49

mvh Isobarik

[rondoolaa]

Just 3 hours left.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KYOSHO-VINTAGE-LA-52-LAZER-ZX-R-BUGGY-BODYSHELL-NEW-/200606047817?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item2eb50d5e49

mvh Isobarik


who won, anyone here?

i know it wasnt me, went up just over a tenner past my bid, aaaggghhh...

if its anyone on here, send it to kamtek to get copies made please...:)

[isobarik]

who won, anyone here?

i know it wasnt me, went up just over a tenner past my bid, aaaggghhh...

if its anyone on here, send it to kamtek to get copies made please...:)

Not me

I have already sent an zxr body to kamtec i think it was like 2-3 years :thumbdown:ago

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Im calling kamtec today.

Iso, dont forget those belts.

[Welshy40]

Just had a chat with Keith re the Tomcat shell and he has said its now available on ebay and should be on his site already. I will be updating him with my painted shell which he will upload onto the site when it arrives in the post. (Sorry Iso I forgot about the ZXR shell so will chase again when I email him this week).

Link to ebay is below and is with rear wing and is value for money. Well worth it. No undertray but fits a ZXR undertray and he is in the process of copying that so should be available soon as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/New-TOMCAT-lexan-1-10-buggy-bodyshell-Kamtec-repro-/310311883498?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item48400792ea

Website will be updated shortly with this info.

[kaszal]

Looks nice... will that shell fit my Procat?

[Welshy40]

Unsure, doubt it tho

[isobarik]

Im calling kamtec today.

Iso, dont forget those belts.

nope dont forgot the belts, dealt with an friend regarding the belts so he
should have sended them to you but shall ask him and see what happened.

let me know what he have to say about the zxr body/undertray and the gearcover since i sended him an nip gearcover so it wouldnt been to hard to get a mould from that.:confused:

I have an racecraft/tech body also but hey it has taken too long .

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Keith and I will talk this week but things have been a bit crazy today so didn't get a chance. Still the tomcat shell is now available.

Out of curiosity my ZXS proto that I haven't used, what would you say I would get for it? £750 for or ? I really have got to sell it or strip it down for spares, so if anyone out there is after one of most probably ten ever made now there is an opportunity to get it.

[oli4ke]

I'm after one :drool:but the price is too much for me :(

[Welshy40]

Im contemplating dropping to £650

[rondoolaa]

beautiful car welshy, wish i could afford it too but skint,

found a couple of parts when browsing, probably loads about but i'll put it anyway.

http://www.cmc-versand.de/Kyosho/Servosaver-110Blau-arnr-8-39655.html

http://www.cmc-versand.de/Kyosho/Dekorbogen-110-Lazer-ZX-Sports-arnr-8-LA-50.html

[Welshy40]

Good find. Stickers for the zx / zxr and steering for all models.

[gainsy]

Am thinking of getting a lazer to race off road at watford or stotfold
Will have to be a second hand 1 as only really got a budget of £100, the rest i have needs to go on electrics
Is there anything i should look out for? as there seems to be a few different versions about, im not using lipo's yet so can't have 1 set up for that & would prefer saddle pack set up to save me having to change my around again
Been 20 odd years since my last Kyosho, a optima mid lwb & have had cat's since then so don't know much about kyosho these days
Any advice would be greatly appreciated & if anyone knows of a car for sale around my budget that would be even better
Cheers guys
Gainsy

[Welshy40]

Gainsy well i would advise a zxr in any varient but would hope you buy one with alloy pivot wishbone blocks as that is the only item that in the kit that is made of fragile plastic and needs reinforcement. Belts, bodies, chassis and shock towers of all varieties are still available from other manufacturers.

[gainsy]

Cheers Welshy
What's your opinion on the zx-5? as there are a few on ebay at the moment, can't say i like the plastic looking chassis though, reminds me of a tamiya

[Welshy40]

Cheers Welshy
What's your opinion on the zx-5? as there are a few on ebay at the moment, can't say i like the plastic looking chassis though, reminds me of a tamiya

Crap to put it simply. Best to invest in the older zxr model but really down to what your after. If your up for vintage then the zxr or if for fun and getting back into racing the 2wd losi 22.

[rondoolaa]

:( i have a zx-5 and thought they were ok, mine goes like s*** off a shovel, lol

i have a plastic chassis as a spare and ok it is plastic but as long as it goes fast and beats the opposition i'm happy,

although gotta agree the zx-r is a class car, but you'll find the parts for a zx-5 a lot easier to get hold of

[Welshy40]

Good going, if it works why change. Spares are easy to get for the zxr. All chassis and shock towers, steering, servo plate, lipo tray, belts, diff and layshaft gears, bodyshells, ujs, wheels are all still available now so no problems for us either. Stick a 5.5 x12 in like ive done on my zxr. Its pretty quick now as well.

[rondoolaa]

dunno, i'm having trouble finding la-11 and la-26,

i know there are la-26 on fleabay but they are nearly £17 with postage for just 2 fronts, originaly £6 for 2 fronts and 2 rears,, just cant understand what happened to the rears, unless kyosho decided to just sell fronts as they broke more and took the cheapskate way out by not even printing new cardboard packet headers and instead just putting a sticker over the old one, lol

i have sent some money to someone to try to get me 3 sets of la-26 from kyosho america but they are even having problems getting them as they keep going in and out of stock

thats truthfully the only 2 parts i'm looking for but cant find, well la-32 is another hard to find part,

also i'm after some blue front hubs, are they available anywhere along with the other parts i want?

[Lenn]

dunno, i'm having trouble finding la-11 and la-26,

i know there are la-26 on fleabay but they are nearly £17 with postage for just 2 fronts, originaly £6 for 2 fronts and 2 rears,, just cant understand what happened to the rears, unless kyosho decided to just sell fronts as they broke more and took the cheapskate way out by not even printing new cardboard packet headers and instead just putting a sticker over the old one, lol

i have sent some money to someone to try to get me 3 sets of la-26 from kyosho america but they are even having problems getting them as they keep going in and out of stock

thats truthfully the only 2 parts i'm looking for but cant find, well la-32 is another hard to find part,

also i'm after some blue front hubs, are they available anywhere along with the other parts i want?

Hi Ron,

Checking my sources for LA-11! Let you know ASAP.

Regarding the blue c-hubs, you mean this ones?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/rare-vintage-kyosho-lazer-zxr-front-hubs-upgrade-/250821440509?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item3a661f73fd

A lot of guys here on the forum can help you out with la-26, If not please contact me!
BTW I know a good source for LA-32;):thumbsup:

Brgds

[Welshy40]

Buy those hubs but do use threadlock when fitting the king pins otherwise you may lose the bearings later on.

La11 are hard to find yes but my friend did make a mold and we have found the right resin to make them. Problem is that he has taken on a contract thats now taking all his time and is working 7 days a week so is unable to make any more at the moment. When he contacts me when he has time i will see what he can do. He also made the front gearbox as well.

[isobarik]

dunno, i'm having trouble finding la-11 and la-26,

i know there are la-26 on fleabay but they are nearly £17 with postage for just 2 fronts, originaly £6 for 2 fronts and 2 rears,, just cant understand what happened to the rears, unless kyosho decided to just sell fronts as they broke more and took the cheapskate way out by not even printing new cardboard packet headers and instead just putting a sticker over the old one, lol

i have sent some money to someone to try to get me 3 sets of la-26 from kyosho america but they are even having problems getting them as they keep going in and out of stock

thats truthfully the only 2 parts i'm looking for but cant find, well la-32 is another hard to find part,

also i'm after some blue front hubs, are they available anywhere along with the other parts i want?

Yeah i know what you mean funny when it says nip hell thats not nip since the la-26 when nip will come in an set of 2 front and 2 rear.

the teamline hubs can be aquired from ebay there is an set on there now yeah they are cool but newer la-219 fit good also and are easier to get an can be bought in alloy annodizzed orange how cool isnt that.

mvh Isobarik

[rondoolaa]

Yeah i know what you mean funny when it says nip hell thats not nip since the la-26 when nip will come in an set of 2 front and 2 rear.

the teamline hubs can be aquired from ebay there is an set on there now yeah they are cool but newer la-219 fit good also and are easier to get an can be bought in alloy annodizzed orange how cool isnt that.

mvh Isobarik

The orange ones sound well nice to me, looked on net but not found any, will look more later,


removed pic as it was a bit sarcastic, lol

[isobarik]

The orange ones sound well nice to me, looked on net but not found any, will look more later,


take it to another level with the arm in the pic, lol

Thats just nasty.

Take an look at this.

http://www.kenonhobby.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/ZX5004-7O.jpg&maxx=300&maxy=0

www.kenonhobby.com

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Thats just nasty.

Take an look at this.

http://www.kenonhobby.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/ZX5004-7O.jpg&maxx=300&maxy=0

www.kenonhobby.com (http://www.kenonhobby.com)

mvh Isobarik

Iso,

You forgot one thing, these bend very easily and is not really worth buying. The team line one is the way to go and buy it whilst you have the chance as they are unbreakable. I can break most things when testing and have never broken a team line castor block.

[rondoolaa]

will try and get the teamline ones then, does anyone have any for sale to save me going in a bidding war on the ones on ebay, no worries if not,
ps: thanks for the above pics of the orange ones

[Welshy40]

will try and get the teamline ones then, does anyone have any for sale to save me going in a bidding war on the ones on ebay, no worries if not,
ps: thanks for the above pics of the orange ones

Sorry but no I dont and not sure if any one on here does either.

[isobarik]

Yeah they are alu but they are sexy and easy avaliable bet there is an guy somewhere in this world that have broken an teamline hub.


mvh Isobarik

btw think i have 6 nip pair teamline hubs

[rondoolaa]

didnt fancy parting with 1 or even 2 would you, lol

i wanna make 1 shelf queen with all new parts on it and 1 car to race which i already have but want to get 1 spare for it of everything i might need,,

no worries if wanna hang onto them

[isobarik]

Ron shall think about it.

Moth no habs and the swedes are still in it.

but florida seams to go down.

mvh Isobarik

[oli4ke]

Hi Guys,

I am looking for the Lazer ZX body, undertray, and wing (LA-36). I have asked Kamtec already and they are only doing Lazer ZX-S bodies now.

Does anybody know where I can find a set? Or an alternative body? Will the ZX-5 Body fit the Lazer ZX?

Thanks in Advance.

@Alan: Teambluegroove is back online, please check the ebay link below = lazer zx shell and wing! Undertray is available in an other auction.

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/KYOSHO-LAZER-ZX-BODY-AND-WING-laser-optima-/150419134837?pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item2305add975

[isobarik]

Any one here that is going to the world champs in finland

lazer zx-s check

batteries check

radio check

charger check

House construction check......wtf :thumbdown:

so i´ll guess im just going to watch then.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Iso,

Pics of the zxs with stuff installed. Im still working on my house so cant go even though its very tempting to go and see your lovely country and ladies.

[moth898]

Ron shall think about it.

Moth no habs and the swedes are still in it.

but florida seams to go down.

mvh Isobarik

I heard the Twins are applying to become Canadian citizens :p

[oli4ke]

Hi Guys,

Enclosed the final result of my lazer ZX-RR racer project.
I hope you like it....

Cheers!!

[kek23k]

That looks mint Oli, well done :D

[isobarik]

I heard the Twins are applying to become Canadian citizens :p

Yeah i bet you wish that ha ha ....:thumbsup:

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Iso, they still havent turned up yet.

[isobarik]

Yeah iknow welsh sorry for that since my friend has been lazy i have reminded him and he was on it.

sorry for the delay.

mvh Isobarik

[rondoolaa]

Hi Guys,

Enclosed the final result of my lazer ZX-RR racer project.
I hope you like it....

Cheers!!

sweet

[oli4ke]

sweet

THX:D

[oli4ke]

That looks mint Oli, well done :D

THX :D

[isobarik]

oli4ke

nice one ...looking good those rims what are thy ???e

bluegroove body ???

mvh isobarik

[oli4ke]

oli4ke

nice one ...looking good those rims what are thy ???e

bluegroove body ???

mvh isobarik

Hi Henrik,

Rims are from ARP (see picture) and I re-used an original ZX-R body:D
BTW did you received my PM regarding the c hubs?

Cheers

[isobarik]

Hi Henrik,

Rims are from ARP (see picture) and I re-used an original ZX-R body:D
BTW did you received my PM regarding the c hubs?

Cheers

Yeah i got that pm but hey are tose rims hard to get ????

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

Iso,

Pics of the zxs with stuff installed. Im still working on my house so cant go even though its very tempting to go and see your lovely country and ladies.

Willl try to find the camera so i can snap some pics.

The world champ is held in finland but its just an 2-3 houre drive from me and a trip with the boat or an 3 hore drive and no boat so i´ll guess i will go and watch.

mvh isobarik

[Lowry]

Hi,

if anybody is interested:

I still have a bunch of these pink ARP rims. Some without tyres, some with fresh new Yokomo tyres.

Just send me a PM if you would like pics.

Cheers

Ralf

[oli4ke]

Yeah i got that pm but hey are tose rims hard to get ????

mvh Isobarik

NOPE ask Lowry = Ralph :D
He is a nice guy to deal with!

[isobarik]

Moth swedes and swedes every where :thumbsup:

Btw take an look at tampa when they are on defence they play 1-3-1 and what nationality has the guy that invented that play :D
And now that the bruins lost :mad: well i guess that they take it in the last game. They have to make the first pass faster.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Its done, and hope you like it. Should be on the website sometime soon.

[bignick]

The shell looks good, just ordered mine today. I'll be doing mine myself so will be keeping it simple.

Should be good.

[moth898]

Moth swedes and swedes every where :thumbsup:

Btw take an look at tampa when they are on defence they play 1-3-1 and what nationality has the guy that invented that play :D
And now that the bruins lost :mad: well i guess that they take it in the last game. They have to make the first pass faster.

mvh Isobarik

Iso,

The 1-3-1 is a different way of playing the trap. The neutral zone trap was perfected by Scotty Bowman.....Tampa didn't re-invent the wheel with that play.

I can't stand the Bruins, they are a bunch of sore loosers that play dirty. I want them out as fast as possible. But then if they make it to the finals I'm sure the Canuks will teach them a lesson.

[oli4ke]

Its done, and hope you like it. Should be on the website sometime soon.

looks superb James!!!

[Lowry]

Hi,

I have some shocks and rims for sale if anyone is interested.


Shocks:

2 x Goldies long
2 x Goldies short
4 x Goldies medium (used on ZX-R in front)
All shocks are used and show some small scratches but are technically in very good condition. Thinking about 29 € for a set of 4 shocks including springs.


Rims:

4 x ARP pink rims (2 front, 2 rear); special is that the rear rims have more offset; so the ZX-RR also gets the full width on the back
4 x black HPI six-spoke rims
Email or PM me if you are interested.

Cheers

Ralf

[isobarik]

Welsh my friend have sended the belts a couple days ago so let me know when you get them.

have you asked keith about the zxr body ???

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Welsh my friend have sended the belts a couple days ago so let me know when you get them.

have you asked keith about the zxr body ???

mvh Isobarik

Iso, I have emailed him and nothing yet. Do you have anything you want to trade for those Yok adaptors that come with the ZXS?:thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

Iso,

They arrived today. Cheers mate.

[isobarik]

I dont know what did you have in mind for the adapters.

mvh isobarik

[Ema]

If someone needs some new and cheap suspension arms, here's an ebay link ;).

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/140561509719

bye
Ema

[Welshy40]

I dont know what did you have in mind for the adapters.

mvh isobarik

Mmm well im still up for more rear belts or a front gearbox.

[HKP]

Mmm well im still up for more rear belts or a front gearbox.

That reminds me James, i need to send you that spare gearbox in white when i find the damn thing!!

[isobarik]

Mmm well im still up for more rear belts or a front gearbox.

i can departure from a front gearbox no problemo.

mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

i can departure from a front gearbox no problemo.

mvh isobarik

If your up for Iso then i will try and post the yok adaptors this weekend but if not next week. Pm me your address again mate as its been deleted by mistake.

HKP

Cheers dude, do you have my new address?

[Welshy40]

Does anyone know where I can get the truck conversion for the Lazer ZX/ZXR?

[isobarik]

no idea...........

mvh Isobarik

but if you use say rear rims around from an old ultima tracker or what ever they are called that should do it.

[rondoolaa]

Hi,

I've had a look around the web but not much luck finding them, maybe I'm looking in the wrong places,

Anyone know where I can get the blue ball ends.

Thanks for any help.

[Welshy40]

RPM for the plastic ball joints. Plenty of shops sell them in the UK including DMS, Demon, Apex

[isobarik]

Hi,

I've had a look around the web but not much luck finding them, maybe I'm looking in the wrong places,

Anyone know where I can get the blue ball ends.

Thanks for any help.


http://www.rpmrcproducts.com/products/assoc/steering.htm

mvh isobarik

[adam lancia]

Welshy, one of the guys on 10talk is selling a JG truck conversion, can't remember if it's for a lazer or optima though

[Welshy40]

Cheers, ive added a thread just in case.

[Welshy40]

Its finally on Kamtec and looking good. Paint job was done by Custom Blitz.

http://www.kamtec.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=8&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=503&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

[isobarik]

Looking good ........and now if he just can get the zxr body working also...


mvh Isobarik

[rondoolaa]

Looking good ........and now if he just can get the zxr body working also...


mvh Isobarik

2nd that,

i want a zxr or zx shell

[rondoolaa]

http://www.rpmrcproducts.com/products/assoc/steering.htm

mvh isobarik

thanks, do i buy long shank or short shank ones,

gotta ask as the site in link doesnt sell to uk,

found someone that does ship to uk but they sell long shank and short shank and i dont know which to get,

thanks for advice, ron

in fact if possible can you please let me know the size of the standard lazer zx balls that go in the ball ends, and the diameter of the threaded shafts that fit inside the ball ends, please

[isobarik]

Since rpm is an american company the make them for the associated size ballstuds.

so good on kyosho shaft ( turnbuckle ) but not on ballstud.

I might bee wrong but the associated ballstuds looks a bit smaller then the kyosho dito.

If you have kyosho ballstuds why dont use the UM-112 or the UM-112H wich are Harder . But then the color is wrong i´ll guess.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Guys,

I've finally done it and worked out how to weigh the car properly.

I've added the cell hole Zeppin brass plates (15g each totaling 90g) and now after a bit of dremelling I have managed to fit two Rude tony brass weights for the Lazer ZX-5 FS (40g x 2 totaling 80g) and due to the carbon fibre centre chassis plate having a bit of space they slot in perfectly and also moves the weight more inline by 3mm on either side of my Lipo tray sides hecne why I used blue foam tape. Basically with the three TRF511 centre chassis plates as well plus the Lipo saddles it all adds up to the same weight as the NIMH so should work well.

Oh yeah before I forget I did have to raise the top deck by 1.5mm so I could still attach my batt connectors on the Lipos.

Testing tomorrow to see if its as good as it looks.

[oli4ke]

Hi Ron

Bought mine from this ebay seller! These are the ones you need. The best price on the net......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Blue-Heavy-Duty-4-40-Rod-End-12-SC10-T4-RPM-73375-/400223262339?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d2f2a5683

If you need them in black, you can find them on ebay as well with Partnumber RPM73372
http://www.oople.com/v/vspfiles/templates/rcplanet/images/clear1x1.gif

Rgds

[isobarik]

Moth well hat kind of .....sucked......

mvh isobarik

[oli4ke]

Guys,

I've finally done it and worked out how to weigh the car properly.

I've added the cell hole Zeppin brass plates (15g each totaling 90g) and now after a bit of dremelling I have managed to fit two Rude tony brass weights for the Lazer ZX-5 FS (40g x 2 totaling 80g) and due to the carbon fibre centre chassis plate having a bit of space they slot in perfectly and also moves the weight more inline by 3mm on either side of my Lipo tray sides hecne why I used blue foam tape. Basically with the three TRF511 centre chassis plates as well plus the Lipo saddles it all adds up to the same weight as the NIMH so should work well.

Oh yeah before I forget I did have to raise the top deck by 1.5mm so I could still attach my batt connectors on the Lipos.

Testing tomorrow to see if its as good as it looks.

Mate you are a freak :woot: I LOVE IT :wub;)

[rondoolaa]

Hi Ron

Bought mine from this ebay seller! These are the ones you need. The best price on the net......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Blue-Heavy-Duty-4-40-Rod-End-12-SC10-T4-RPM-73375-/400223262339?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d2f2a5683

If you need them in black, you can find them on ebay as well with Partnumber RPM73372
http://www.oople.com/v/vspfiles/templates/rcplanet/images/clear1x1.gif

Rgds


thanks Oli

[oli4ke]

thanks Oli

No worries mate ;)

[SimonW]

Has anyone got 1 of these ZX's for sale i only want a basic one with which to play with?

[Welshy40]

Well the brass weights made a hell of a difference, and am almost there with my set up.

[Dyna]

Well the second prototype has come through in the post today and I have fitted this to a standard Lazer ZX slipper, obviously without the balls and instead with clean plates on either side of the hex pads and will test tomorrow night. I may opt for the ZXR Mk1 slipper if the ZX one isn't up for the job.

Ema, it fits nicely as you can see and the contact surface is more than the standard ZXR hyper clutch so should be up to the job.

I will update on Friday on what I have tested. :thumbsup:


Ive just brought a few of these from Neil @ RW Racing, and i can say they are great ! Anyone who wants to have a nice, adjustable slipper that can handle the power on the ZXR without resorting to the ZXRR/ZXS slipper clutch just buy these from RW Racing. Great design from James that.

Im back onto a few of my Lazer projects, got a period team ZXR Mk2 with Wasp Chassis and a Kyosho Team Triumph on the go as well now... :)

[Welshy40]

Dyna - Matt,

Cheers mate, much appreciated. You should have seen my car go last night with the added brass plates and of course the new spur with zx slipper system. It was superb!! Almost there with the original setup that I used successfully in the 90's. Felt easy to drive and I could place it almost anywhere I wanted. I annoyed Speed Freeek with that several times last night, passed him just for the sake of it at almost every place on the track which was quite funny.

The only issue I now have is the bearings are beyond keeping as they are well and truly worn out as the front slop is half of what the trf511 has but is far too much for this car so am going to get some new bearings, possibly the blue covered ones as it looks much nicer.

Will also get around to redesigning that front half circular mount as it needs reinforcing a bit.

[rondoolaa]

yer, i got 2 100 tooth spurs from neil also, great design james, dont think he has any more stock at mo, cant wait to fit the spur and associated slipper to mine too to try it out,

do we need any bearings for the holes in the spur james and if yes what size?, thanks

[isobarik]

4x8 mm bearing ...
mvh Isobarik

[rondoolaa]

4x8 mm bearing ...
mvh Isobarik

it has 12 holes so do i put one in every 3rd hole or is it worth getting 12?

thats if your answer was to my question of course, lol

[isobarik]

it has 12 holes so do i put one in every 3rd hole or is it worth getting 12?

thats if you answer was to my question of course, lol

Arent you going to run the slipper pads ???

And yes the 4x8 bearing size was the answer to youre question.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

The 12 holes are for the zx slipper system without the associated pads, but for you the pads and plates and spring system. Im still using the standard bushing that came with the kit and is in the centre of the spur.

[rondoolaa]

ahhh, so if i understand this correctly, the 4x8 bearing is for the hole in the centre of the spur and i dont use any bearings in the other 12 holes on the spur as i will be using the associated slipper pads instead,.. correct?........thanks for a reply

[isobarik]

ahhh, so if i understand this correctly, the 4x8 bearing is for the hole in the centre of the spur and i dont use any bearings in the other 12 holes on the spur as i will be using the associated slipper pads instead,.. correct?........thanks for a reply

Thats correct.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

ahhh, so if i understand this correctly, the 4x8 bearing is for the hole in the centre of the spur and i dont use any bearings in the other 12 holes on the spur as i will be using the associated slipper pads instead,.. correct?........thanks for a reply

Yes, if using a zx slipper then i posted pictures on page 76 with the spur fitted with pads and the two big metal washer slipper plates.

Zxr mk1 is simple to fit with the sc10 extra torque slipper pad an a picture is on here somewhere and is my prefered option and what i used a template for the spur. Any shop should be able to order it.

[Welshy40]

Any idea where I can get a ZXR undertray from?

[isobarik]

Any idea where I can get a ZXR undertray from?

The only place that are making them are Bluegroove

mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

He appears to be closed at the mo.

[isobarik]

Postal strike in canada

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Yes I just got a mail from him, gutted. Oh by the way im sending you a package this week mate.

[oosh123]

Hi,

Does anyone have a set of Lazer ZX Aluminium Knuckle Arms OT-16 I can buy off of?

Thanks

[rondoolaa]

Yes I just got a mail from him, gutted. Oh by the way im sending you a package this week mate.

my cousin is manager of marketing at canada post and he reckons the government will make a deal and have them back to work either this friday or next monday at the latest, so you shouldnt have to wait too long welshy

[adam lancia]

Hey guys,

I've been trying to find the correct part numbers for the ZX5 CVD's that fit the ZX-R, could someone please repost these for me? Thanks a ton in advance!

[Welshy40]

my cousin is manager of marketing at canada post and he reckons the government will make a deal and have them back to work either this friday or next monday at the latest, so you shouldnt have to wait too long welshy

Cheers matey, cant wait to buy them so I can fit my Tomcat shell.:thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

Iso,

Yokomo hubs in their way to you.

[SimonW]

Hi All, Thanks to Oli4ke i am now a proud owner of a pile of bits, lol, that will be my main 4wd once it is ready. Can anyone help me with my only problem, I need to get some of the alloy arm mounts, plastic ones are law30 i believe but if I'm gonna race it i need ALLOY cos' it's rough in our region, lol. When it is done i will post some pics.

Thanks A, K, Nut. Simon

[Welshy40]

I would suggest buying the plastic items and getting vega to make them for you as they are superb machinists.

[oli4ke]

Hi All, Thanks to Oli4ke i am now a proud owner of a pile of bits, lol, that will be my main 4wd once it is ready. Can anyone help me with my only problem, I need to get some of the alloy arm mounts, plastic ones are law30 i believe but if I'm gonna race it i need ALLOY cos' it's rough in our region, lol. When it is done i will post some pics.

Thanks A, K, Nut. Simon

HI Simon,

You received the bits already??

[SimonW]

Yes my friend, this morning. Thanks again. When i get some time i will start to build her up.

[rondoolaa]

Hi All, Thanks to Oli4ke i am now a proud owner of a pile of bits, lol, that will be my main 4wd once it is ready. Can anyone help me with my only problem, I need to get some of the alloy arm mounts, plastic ones are law30 i believe but if I'm gonna race it i need ALLOY cos' it's rough in our region, lol. When it is done i will post some pics.

Thanks A, K, Nut. Simon


there are some here but it would mean buying a whole car to get them:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/220803137800?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80% 2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_npmv%3D3%26_trksid%3Dm57 0.l2736%26_nkw%3D220803137800%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_500wt_1156

[Welshy40]

Thats the motor mount that I wanted. Gutted I cant find one on its own.:thumbdown:

[oli4ke]

Yes my friend, this morning. Thanks again. When i get some time i will start to build her up.

NICE, My pleasure mate!!:thumbsup:

[racingdwarf]

hmm, can't wait to see this, get building mate:thumbsup:,

[Lowry]

Hi, thought I would put this up here.

I have recently restored a Lazer ZX-RR out of mostly used and cleaned but also some NIB parts.
The car is a complete ZX-RR: Equalizer shocks, new front C-Hubs, rear uprights with additional parts, new Slipper, slightly changed ball diffs,...

Right now it sits on my shelf. If anybody is interested just PM or email me.

[isobarik]

Hey guys,

I've been trying to find the correct part numbers for the ZX5 CVD's that fit the ZX-R, could someone please repost these for me? Thanks a ton in advance!

La-232 in front wich are 65,5
And the 62.5 bone and the la-231.02 axle in the rear

La245 62,5 driveshafts for the rear also but dont know if it needs the la-231.02

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

Iso,

Yokomo hubs in their way to you.

thanks
shall post the gearbox asap.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Iso,

Cheers mate.

Lowry,

Nice, now you need to upgrade it so you can use lipos and show these new cars what a great design can still do.

[adam lancia]

Thanks Henrik!!!

[isobarik]

Welsh
got them looking good. :thumbsup:

Adam
youre welcome

mvh isobarik

[isobarik]

Got me some period correct batteries for my lazer.
Well this is the least old stuff i have ...nah i have actually 2 nimh 3000 cells/packs.

http://proxy1.pixbox.se/arkivet/synligt_33/32530000-32539999/640x480/32531654.jpg?0

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Ok I ubderstand as its cheaper than the mods ive made mate.

[isobarik]

Ok I ubderstand as its cheaper than the mods ive made mate.

Yeah compared to all the brass yes much much cheaper but that wasnt why i got them more just because i could do it...........

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Well i went racing at RCArena last night (on the club listings) and was a bit unsure on how the car would go with my designed front mount. Ive still got issues with being unable to go flat out round corners as the back end comes out so front shocks and front ride height need adjusting to better it. I also found that the centre weights that sit on the CF block are giving too much weight to the front so am going to cut some in half and scew to the back hole on the CF block which should balance the car on jumps.

Other than those issues and the fact that the front belt had over stretched itself so was only giving 50% to the front the car performed very well. I took tq against a durango and my lap times were almost all identical so seems to be almost dialed. Pity the belt was shagged as i had to run my zxs in the final but was fun never the less and ended up driving like a spaz but who cares.

[Welshy40]

Shell attached. Looks good and in two weeks time will be going properly. :thumbsup:

[isobarik]

Looking good welsh

Some hefty attack on that wing.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

I dont use the zx or zxr one but found a solid one piece wing mount and seems to be molded at the correct angle. Just a few things to sort out first before im happy.

[rondoolaa]

Which would be the best fibre lyte front shock tower to buy?

Thanks for advice

[Welshy40]

I prefer the semi circular on on the zx page but the copy they made wasnt an exact copy. Im talking to them today to remodel the bottom of it. Ive never managed to break one so are well worth buying.

[isobarik]

Welsh
sorry but there are som delay regarding the LA-32 since i missplaced it somewhere but i have ordered some more and they are coming my way soon so please have patiance.

I have 6 LA-32 coming my way so let me know if you need some extra.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Welsh
sorry but there are som delay regarding the LA-32 since i missplaced it somewhere but i have ordered some more and they are coming my way soon so please have patiance.

I have 6 LA-32 coming my way so let me know if you need some extra.

mvh Isobarik

Not a problems mate. Front gearboxes are useful so let me know how much more for another mate.

[isobarik]

Not a problems mate. Front gearboxes are useful so let me know how much more for another mate.


Maybe i will send one for free and you will be my BFL....ha ha ha

[rondoolaa]

thats cheap, can i buy one for that price ;-)

[Welshy40]

You are already my bitch for life with all the items out there that can now be bought again for the Lazer including my most recent spur and zx/zxr lipo tray.

However ive got the very first design lipo tray for the zxs that is wafer thin but does work well. Once ive found a case to put in to protect it i will send onto you. The one i wanted to send you seems to have gone missing.

[adam lancia]

Hey James,

Where did you get the LiPo tray from? I'm looking for something to fit Trakpower 4800's in a Mk.1 chassis. I was thinking of using the B44.1 tray since it's one piece, thought it would make mounting it easier. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Adam

[Welshy40]

Which would be the best fibre lyte front shock tower to buy?

Thanks for advice

I have discussed the front semicircular front tower with Fibrelyte. Im awaiting the cad drawing to see for myself but should be ready for buying next week. Also my version ZXS copy to fit the ZX is good as im using that at the moment but am also having it remade with a mod too it and will also be ready for rnext week.

[Welshy40]

Hey James,

Where did you get the LiPo tray from? I'm looking for something to fit Trakpower 4800's in a Mk.1 chassis. I was thinking of using the B44.1 tray since it's one piece, thought it would make mounting it easier. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Adam

Adam,

B44 one doesnt fit hence why I did what I did. Have a look at my pics several pages back and youll see my lipo design. Its basically based on a TRF511 design but is significantly different. I will be talking to Fibrelyte today and will get a template drawing made up fort he ZXR as the design I have currently done is for my design chassis only. Cost may be a bit steep (I think around £30), but its made a hell of a difference for me. You will need to either drill two holes in the centre of the chassis or stick it on with very super sticky adhesive tape for the middle bit and the other two halves just screw into the batt post holes. I have designed it so you can add up to 85g on each side using three cell hole zimmer brass plates (each 15g) and one 40 rudebitz plate for the ZX5FS which needs a bit of filing to fit perfectly and of course you can add quite a lot of rudebitz 511 centre chassis plates, I am currently using three (each 17g). Hope this is of help.

[isobarik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp1a5oBb9sQ

mvh Isobarik

[oli4ke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp1a5oBb9sQ

mvh Isobarik

HAHAHAHA NICE ONE :thumbsup::D

[rondoolaa]

I have discussed the front semicircular front tower with Fibrelyte. Im awaiting the cad drawing to see for myself but should be ready for buying next week. Also my version ZXS copy to fit the ZX is good as im using that at the moment but am also having it remade with a mod too it and will also be ready for rnext week.


great news, thankyou

[adam lancia]

Gotcha, thanks James!

[isobarik]

Bi.... I mean Wealsh la-32 is 8 euro each
I think i have promised someone else to so please refresh my mind and let me know.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Iso,

One you owe me and pm me your paypal address and will send you 8 euros.

[rondoolaa]

really big shout out to moth898, your the man, THANKYOU :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

Bi.... I mean Wealsh la-32 is 8 euro each
I think i have promised someone else to so please refresh my mind and let me know.

mvh Isobarik

Iso,

Are we sorted now?

[Welshy40]

Guys, I ran on friday and was driving badly but after two crap runs and one good one totake 2nd. Final was a disaster as I got the lead and had a good lead but had brainfade . Link below of finals.


http://www.rcarena.co.uk/

[moth898]

really big shout out to moth898, your the man, THANKYOU :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup:

My pleasure

[isobarik]

My pleasure

Moth
are you in the nead of some teamline hubs ???
just send me youre soul :thumbsup: sorry forgot already got that...

mvh Isobarik

[rondoolaa]

if he's not in need of any is there any chance of me purchasing 1 set along with item in the pm, :drool::wub



no worries if havnt got enough.

[moth898]

Moth
are you in the nead of some teamline hubs ???
just send me youre soul :thumbsup: sorry forgot already got that...

mvh Isobarik

Ah you dirty Sweed, you never stop:lol:

I don't have the teamline hubs, I'd like to have them, but if Ron needs them more give them to him.

I found something that that Welshy and others might like. Hudy makes the weights that slip into the battery locater holes just like the zeppin style. Check this out.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_24_1514/products_id/166077/n/Hudy-12-Gram-Low-CG-LiPo-Chassis-Balancing-Weights-2

They also have some for the smaller lipo locater holes.

[Welshy40]

Ah you dirty Sweed, you never stop:lol:

I don't have the teamline hubs, I'd like to have them, but if Ron needs them more give them to him.

I found something that that Welshy and others might like. Hudy makes the weights that slip into the battery locater holes just like the zeppin style. Check this out.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_24_1514/products_id/166077/n/Hudy-12-Gram-Low-CG-LiPo-Chassis-Balancing-Weights-2

They also have some for the smaller lipo locater holes.

They are 3 grams lighter than zeppin. Also did u see the last race in the video on rcarena as you will see the beast in action with my green dragon shell on my zx.

[rondoolaa]

Ah you dirty Sweed, you never stop:lol:

I don't have the teamline hubs, I'd like to have them, but if Ron needs them more give them to him.

I found something that that Welshy and others might like. Hudy makes the weights that slip into the battery locater holes just like the zeppin style. Check this out.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_24_1514/products_id/166077/n/Hudy-12-Gram-Low-CG-LiPo-Chassis-Balancing-Weights-2

They also have some for the smaller lipo locater holes.



i dont need them more than you mate if you dont have a set,

as you dont have any i'd take the offer,

i was only really saying if you didnt want them or if he had more than 1 set for sale i'd have loved to purchase some,

i have some on my lazer i intend to race but am also going to make a shelf queen, hance reason i asked, eventualy want to get some for that also..

[isobarik]

Welsh can you post un picture on the rear end of the zxs so i can ee how much droop you have ....

Moth i hop you havent changed youre adress ..........

mohaaaa


Btw any chance that any one here has the Losi part 5013 its the upper shock bushings for the losi xx and xxx cars

mvh Isobarik

[rondoolaa]

purchased another lazer to use as spares,

gunna use the tyres and wheels and arms and bulkheads, driveshafts, etc,

i think its just a zx sport,

never seen the shocks or chassis as on this one before, are they the standard shocks and chassis for the zx sport

[isobarik]

purchased another lazer to use as spares,

gunna use the tyres and wheels and arms and bulkheads, driveshafts, etc,

i think its just a zx sport,

never seen the shocks or chassis as on this one before, are they the standard shocks and chassis for the zx sport

Yes looks like box stock zx sport kelron parts all the way.:thumbsup:

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Iso,

As requested, front, rear, side from rear so you can see the position of the top wishbone, and rear blurred image is of the brass gearbox and you can also make out the brass top deck mount.

It goes really well now with the 511 shocks, 50 wt front and 40 wt rear with Tamiya blue springs rear and Losi Red (I think front) with the RPM ball joints on the rear to give that little more ground clearance.

I may now be tempted to run it on the Eden Park track if its hot. Now this can handle any brushless motor (currently have a Losi 4.5 in it) and belts don't break due to the tension. Bad point is the rear shock tower mount as the standard item is super brittle and one roll your buggered. Get one made of alloy like mine.

PS pay particular attention to the hexes as this makes a substantial difference in handling characteristics.

:thumbsup:

[rondoolaa]

Yes looks like box stock zx sport kelron parts all the way.:thumbsup:

mvh Isobarik

is that good (kelron) ??

aint got a clue what kelron is


ps: nice car welshy

[Welshy40]

is that good (kelron) ??

aint got a clue what kelron is


ps: nice car welshy

Cheers, goes rather well now and im quite happy with it, only problem is I cant use mini pins on carpet as it has too much grip even for me and I like major steering. So mini spikes instead :cry:, but should be good if I hit Eden Park on a hot day and lets hope HKP does a vintage event there soon as I will be there.

[moth898]

Welsh can you post un picture on the rear end of the zxs so i can ee how much droop you have ....

Moth i hop you havent changed youre adress ..........

mohaaaa


Btw any chance that any one here has the Losi part 5013 its the upper shock bushings for the losi xx and xxx cars

mvh Isobarik

Thanks Iso, you make me blush:wub

[Welshy40]

Anyone in the Lazer thread doing the Petit event in January, and if so are you running your Lazer ZX/ZXR's? I will be.

[Welshy40]

Iso,

Ive designed a belt tensioner for the front belt on the zx / zxr mk1 and its basically a redesigned L brace. This is needed to handle a 6.5 or 5.5 motor. Im using the rear gear box zxs belt tensioner as its an exact length. Looks rather good to. Now to get two bearings for a thorough test..

[isobarik]

Awsome welsh...i was thinking of using the post from the tf4 basicly the same as in zxs kit.

Did see the droop that you had and its way more then on mine...

was it so that you had the yataba arena setup sheet ?? wold like to have a peek at that.

Mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

Awsome welsh...i was thinking of using the post from the tf4 basicly the same as in zxs kit.

Did see the droop that you had and its way more then on mine...

was it so that you had the yataba arena setup sheet ?? wold like to have a peek at that.

Mvh isobarik

Yes its me, but the shocks used were protos and are basically the velvet shocks that have recently come out. They also used Kyosho springs and oils but its in Japenese so you may struggle a bit. I will dig out this weekend and scan over to you.

Yes I had more droop but the top deck on mine in that picture is 1mm shorter than yours. Im rectifying at the moment as I have now gone 1.5mm longer and the belts too tight. Work in progress but I intend to have a taught belt with the tensioner attached so the one way is free and the front wheels spin without problems. I will post a picture of the L brace on the weekend.

Droop on the rear end of the ZXS is due to the longer shafts on the TRF511 shocks, and give more down travel which helps a lot. Front have a lot even though it doesnt look much but then again the kick up plate hides the true amount of height. Have you driven it yet?

You will find on clay / dust the overall design width is fine and is better than a YZ10 as proven when this was the car that beat the current worlds master Masami for the Japanese natts title and he was running the YZ10. But if your using on high grip like astro turf you need to add substantial weight around the gearbox and widen the front hexes by almost double the width (almost), and the rear end is the standard width as this give more stability on the front and makes the rear end more user friendly so tends to follow the front when you through it into a corner.

On carpet I just cannot get a good setup for it to be driven fast as it over grips and rolls, no matter how many rows you cut off the front and rear and the roll bar doesnt work no matter how hard or soft it is (Dan Greenwood can vouch for that)the car is just stupid as I get unbelieveable steering with the mildest castor blocks and I like twitch city with my cars already but this is in another dimension and I cant drive it for front end grip roll I get with mini pins, hence why I use mini spikes. The Tamiya shocks have helpded drastically compared to the Kyosho, Associateded and Traxxas TRX1 shocks so would recommend buying a set and going from there.

Hope this is of use to you matey.

[SimonW]

Still looking for LA30 or teamline alloy equivelent. Any help would be appreciated.

[rondoolaa]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KYOSHO-LAZER-ARM-BRACKETS-30-VINTAGE-NEW-/180703214343?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item2a12c03b07#ht_591wt_1139

[isobarik]

Welsh

Going to follow my wife to the capital of sweden "stockholm" and there they have an astroturf track called the "green hill" really dont know if i gonnna drive the zxs or the zxr frankly im leaning towards the zxr.

Got an standard astro setup for the zxr ???
mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Zxr set up is with trx1 shocks but wont be far off using gold option house shocks with mip blue seals. May need to go softer by ten weight.

Front oil 60wt 2 holes (May be worth trying 40 wt 1 hole piston)
Schumacher old grey springs
Ujs level
7.5 caster block
1 degrer camber

Rear oil 40wt 3 holes (May be worth trying 30 wt 1 hole piston)
Schumacher old white springs
Ujs level
Tie rods level with wishbone.
Roll bar down to you
1 degree camber

Hope its a good staring point.